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brettr
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Posted Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:36am
Subject: Re: What after Rancillio Silvia for non pro?
 

Thanks emradguy.

Are you saying the Mazzer Mini is a good upgrade from the Rocky?  I wasn't sure if you were saying it is too difficult.

As for wand, do you have a link to which one you're talking about?

Doesn't adding a temperature gauge to the Silvia require lots of wrenching?  That's something I don't want to get into.
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Posted Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:45am
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Oh and as for waiting 45 minutes, I don't have that long.  20 minutes tops.
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Posted Sun Sep 29, 2013, 10:59am
Subject: Re: What after Rancillio Silvia for non pro?
 

short answer...yes.  

long answer....I have no experience with the Mini...I was just reporting things I've read.  My understanding is it's a fatasic grinder, and it is certainly the gold standard for the class.  My point was, that the Macap M4 is supposedly comparable and I've been very happy with it...and I find it very easy to adjust and maintain.  If I were to voice a complaint about it, I'd say that it's not all that easy to weigh every dose...but that would be my only complaint.

The wand comes with a valve.  I'm guessing that your machine is version 1 or 2, given it's age.  Definitely on version 1, you must replace the entire wand/valve assembly.  It takes about 10 minutes, maybe, if you're slow. I'm not sure with version 2 whether the wand can be replaced without exchanging the valve too.

type this (rancilio silvia wand valve assembly) into google and you should get espressoparts hits at the top.  For wahtever reason, I have trouble with their site at work (crazy IT people), and I'm at work now.  Seattle Coffee Gear probably also sells it, and they have (or at least had) a tutorial video showing you how to do it.  It's pretty darn easy though, and there's only one really important step you need to catch on the video (removing a particular washer where the assembly attaches to the frame).

Adding a PID...yeah, a bit more work, but likely well worth it too.  Wayne (calblacksmith) did a great pictorial essay on it some time ago that I'm sure is still one of the best around, but even better, he and others here who've done it are around often enough to help you if you run into any difficulties.

 
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Posted Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:07am
Subject: Re: What after Rancillio Silvia for non pro?
 

brettr Said:

Oh and as for waiting 45 minutes, I don't have that long.  20 minutes tops.

Posted September 29, 2013 link

you get ready that fast in the morning?  I use to get out of bed and stumble directly to Silvia, then go get ready, then make coffee.

You could use a programmable timer to turn Silvia on in the am, but it's generally not advised, since the Silvia boiler doesn't autofill when low.  You would have to be very diligent in making sure the boiler is well cooled and filled before you go to bed each night by doing the following:

1) let the machine cool to room temp after your last use of the day.
2) open the steam valve and run water until it comes out the wand.
3) shut the machine down and make sure the steam valve is completely closed.

Any variation from this and you'll run the risk of the boiler running dry during the warmup period, and subsequently damaging your heating element.

 
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Posted Sun Sep 29, 2013, 11:18am
Subject: Re: What after Rancillio Silvia for non pro?
 

Sorry I forgot that.  I usually wait 1 hr or so before brewing.  Well in the morning at least.  Wake at 6 am when I take the dogs out and brew at 7:15 am.  In the eve I flip the switch before eating dinner then I brew shortly after eating, usually 30-45 min minimum. I do think warm up time is critical for consistency.  If your using the V1/2 wand then yes upgrading is a must! A stepless grinder will give you better shot's.  Most cafe use stepless these days.
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Posted Sun Sep 29, 2013, 12:00pm
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Here is a used deal you may like for a possible upgrade.
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Posted Sun Sep 29, 2013, 2:17pm
Subject: Re: What after Rancillio Silvia for non pro?
 

Burner0000, I think that's the one and I would get it new:
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the BES900XL is the Silvia with the upgrades we're discussing above and at least the same quality?  But I'm guessing better quality.  Is there any disadvantage to the BES900XL over the Silvia?

It looks like I can set this thing to auto turn on and start warming up at a preselected time.

They say you must bring it to a service center every few years.  I descale the Silva about once per year.  How is the BES900XL able to go longer before requiring a descale?

Also, do you know where this must be brought for descaling?  I wouldn't have a Breville dealer near me and would need to drive to the big city, since I wouldn't want to leave it overnight.
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Posted Sun Sep 29, 2013, 2:46pm
Subject: Re: What after Rancillio Silvia for non pro?
 

No the Breville Dual Boiler is a "dual boiler"  Separate boilers for steam and brew+ pid for even more control + group head element to keep the temp consistent from the boiler to the cup.  IMO the BDB is better because it's a dual boiler.  To me the only shortfall is having to send it off for descaling every once in a while.
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Posted Sun Sep 29, 2013, 2:54pm
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Is there something comparable that doesn't have to be sent off?  

From the video on that page, it sounds like back flushing isn't easy.  It must be done every 2 months too.  High maintenance machine no doubt.
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Posted Sun Sep 29, 2013, 6:56pm
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Back flushing is very easy, and any machine you get will need it. Heck, you should be doing it on your Silvia too.

 
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