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Posted Mon Sep 16, 2013, 12:46pm
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I picked up a Jura Capresso Impressa S8 a couple of weeks ago at Goodwill, which brought me to this forum.

After messing around with the settings I was able to pull off fairly decent shots. Being able to get it to run slow enough to pull decent enough shots was the key. This took finding a coffee that when ground fine enough ran slow enough.

It still is a tradeoff between coffee quality and convenience. Its nice to wake up in the morning, press a button and have your coffee.

You'll get a better shot out of one of these than having someone inexperienced make it.

Overall I couldn't justify the normal cost for one of these machines. It is simply a convenience factor, or maybe something for a small town restaurant that coudn't train all the employees to use something more complex but wanted such drinks on the menu.

So unless you absolutely need to have your drink in a hurry with the convenience of a Keurig or something super high quality coffee is not going to be achieved on a superautomatic.
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Posted Mon Sep 16, 2013, 3:11pm
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Another poster above mentioned nespresso, I had forgotten about those.  The OP should probably be made aware that capsules are the latest thing these days, and small cheap "single serving" devices can make convenient coffee.

I'm not by any means recommending them, I've never tried it, just something new that's happened in the last few years.
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Posted Mon Sep 16, 2013, 4:39pm
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Thanks for the feedback, everyone. Personally, I'm not at all a fan of Nespresso type machines. Very average espresso shots at best (imho) and little flexibility within their forced ecosystems.
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Posted Mon Sep 16, 2013, 5:39pm
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Agreed.  I've tried several of their options -- uh, coffees -- and I only found a couple of the choices to be drinkable (out of the 10-12 I tried).

 
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Posted Tue Sep 17, 2013, 11:45am
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Inflictionmitch Said:

I've never been impressed with espresso shots from the Superautomatic machines that I've tried in the past, but I've not tried any consumer units in the past several year. My Baratza grinder mechanism has now crapped out and my Pavoni espresso machine is about twelve years old (and about six repairs in), so a part of my is considering the semi-blasphemic act of purchasing a superautomatic, if one can be had that delivers pleasing, strong shots with nice crema. Are there any machines that you guys feel might be worth considering?

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Whether one finds what a superauto produces pleasing is a subjective matter though CoffeeGeeks in general aren't going to recommend them.  If you want recommendations for pushbutton machines you'd be better served at Single Serve Coffe Forums.
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Posted Tue Sep 17, 2013, 11:46am
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Inflictionmitch Said:

I've never been impressed with espresso shots from the Superautomatic machines that I've tried in the past, but I've not tried any consumer units in the past several year. My Baratza grinder mechanism has now crapped out and my Pavoni espresso machine is about twelve years old (and about six repairs in), so a part of my is considering the semi-blasphemic act of purchasing a superautomatic, if one can be had that delivers pleasing, strong shots with nice crema. Are there any machines that you guys feel might be worth considering?

Posted September 15, 2013 link

Whether one finds what a superauto produces is a subjective matter and CoffeeGeeks in general aren't going to recommend them.  If you want recommendations for pushbutton machines you'd be better served at Single Serve Coffe Forums.
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Posted Tue Sep 17, 2013, 11:54am
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Try to think of a worst place to put a grinder than inside an espresso machine.  Let me know when you come up with one.

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