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pmaru77
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Posted Wed Aug 28, 2013, 12:48pm
Subject: A couple of questions...
 

When I bought my Rancilio Silvia Lady used, I was given a container called Puro (white container with red cap)  It is obviously a cleaner, but the instructions are pictorial.  Is there another place to find better instructions? I've noticed some debris clogging the portafilter mini holes sometimes,
and wondering how to best purge the system.

Also, I took for granted that my protafilter was a double.  Is that standard with this machine?  the machine has a double spout on the holder.

Is there a schematic for the silvia that shows the functions in order to understand what is happening inside there. (in partic. the boiler and steam creator)  I'm guessing the boiler is heated to boil to get steam.
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Posted Wed Aug 28, 2013, 2:09pm
Subject: Re: A couple of questions...
 

Haven't used "Puro", but you should be doing a backflush with just water after every brew session. You also need to make some decision about how often you want to use detergent - perhaps every 50 shots or so? See www.espressomyespresso.com for how to backflush a Silvia. I'm pretty sure he's got schematics there too. However, on this site alone you can find detailed rebuild threads with more photos than you'll possibly ever need. Try the search engine. Enter "calblacksmith" for author. Along with keyword Silvia rebuild.

 
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Posted Fri Aug 30, 2013, 6:09am
Subject: Re: A couple of questions...
 

http://coffeegeek.com/forums/espresso/machinemods/547829
Double coffee basket, I think that new, it comes with both a single or double. The PF has two spouts and can be used for either single, double or triple if you buy the basket.

All water heating takes place in the same boiler. Any issues with scale in the boiler will show up in both the brew and steam. The difference between steam and brew is that two different click thermostats are used. One for brewing and one for steam. The switch on the control panel chooses the thermostat.

 
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Posted Fri Aug 30, 2013, 11:16am
Subject: Re: A couple of questions...
 

Thanks for the feedback.  I'm getting there with knowledge building.  I think I'm going to get a bottomless, and it comes with a triple basket.  I also need to buy a blank basket for backflush.  It may have come with one but I am not toe orig owner.  I also saw a nifty cleaning brush for getting the lock grove cleaned up inside where the gasket sits.  It is a ring shape with bristles.  Looks like the perfect tool to get in there and clean.  Since I was overstuffing my double basket to try to slow the shot down, a lot of grinds ended up in that area, along with other gue related subastances. New Preciso on the way.  Can't wait to see what a real shot looks like. Though, I'm enjoying borderline cappes.
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Posted Fri Aug 30, 2013, 11:52am
Subject: Re: A couple of questions...
 

I have that group gasket brush.  It's pretty good.  I like it much better than the half circle brushes I've used in the past.  I recommend after using it, you do a water only backflush with the pf on loosely.  It'll allow the water to "leak" out up into the gasket area and give you a nice post-brushing rinse.  

Way back when I bought my Silvias (I had two for a while, but bought the second one about 2 years or so after the first), they came with both single and double baskets. I can't remember if they came with both one and two spouted handles or not.  Single baskets have a small center area with holes in it, surrounded by a slightly higher shelf.  Most people find them much more difficult to use.  The double baskets are basically a cylindrical cup with holes that nearly completely cover the entire floor.  Most of the time when you buy a bottomless pf handle it comes with a "triple" basket.  It's basically a really deep double basket, but it holds about 19-23g coffee grounds.

 
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Posted Fri Aug 30, 2013, 12:19pm
Subject: Re: A couple of questions...
 

pmaru77 Said:

Also, I took for granted that my protafilter was a double.  Is that standard with this machine?  the machine has a double spout on the holder.

Posted August 28, 2013 link

Sylvia came with a single and a double basket.  The portafilter takes either basket so it's not really a single or double itself (despite the spouts).

pmaru77 Said:

TI also need to buy a blank basket for backflush.  It may have come with one but I am not toe orig owner.

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I don't recall one coming with the one I had.
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Posted Fri Aug 30, 2013, 12:23pm
Subject: Re: A couple of questions...
 

pmaru77 Said:

Also, I took for granted that my protafilter was a double.  Is that standard with this machine?  the machine has a double spout on the holder.

Posted August 28, 2013 link

Sylvia came with a single and a double basket.  The portafilter takes either basket so it's not really a single or double itself (despite the spouts).
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pmaru77
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Posted Fri Aug 30, 2013, 12:38pm
Subject: Re: A couple of questions...
 

takeshi Said:

Sylvia came with a single and a double basket.  The portafilter takes either basket so it's not really a single or double itself (despite the spouts).

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Yeah, I get it. I'm sure I have a double basket.  My double spout is on crooked, so I figured it screws on and off.  I guess they have a pour spout to enable the fluid to flow without a mess.  I bet it would shoot out pretty nasty, worse than a bottomless, if I took off the double spout.  I'd like to loosen it and try to time it better so it is parallel to the front of the machine when locked down. I am assuming it has a threaded riser that can be tweaked, timing wise.  Someone who put it together mush not have known or cared about out.
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