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pmaru77
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Posted Fri Aug 30, 2013, 12:10pm
Subject: Housekeeping your machine.
 

What I've noticed, is that being able to clean your machine is quite important, as it is something I end up doing 2 times a day. And some lessons I've learned the hard way.  First off, I saw a vid where someone purged their steamer wand into the drip tray to get the excess water out prior to steaming.  Well, I tried that and all sorts of crap flew everywhere.  Bad idea, unless you know excatly what you are doing.  Also, cleaning the steam wand.  You always hear, now dont' forget to wie you wand off with a wet rag after steaming your milk.  Well, errr, doesn't work, period.  The milk is stuck and burnt on (silvia) unless perhaps you have a double wall wand.  So I use a cup with water to just soak the wand and the cup serves as a steam purger. I'm ok with my machine and it's design, but have noticed that some machines are better suuited for maintaining than others.  Or am I just too sloppy. :)  I found a circular ring bristle brush to clean the locking groove in the brew head for locking the portafilter, so I plan on getting that, as the groove is nasty. Good idea?
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Posted Fri Aug 30, 2013, 12:13pm
Subject: Re: Housekeeping your machine.
 

pmaru77 Said:

First off, I saw a vid where someone purged their steamer wand into the drip tray to get the excess water out prior to steaming.  Well, I tried that and all sorts of crap flew everywhere.  Bad idea, unless you know excatly what you are doing.

Posted August 30, 2013 link

Probably depends on both the machine and the operator.  I've done so without any problems but I'm not sure I'd say I know exactly what I'm doing.
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ddubick
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Posted Fri Aug 30, 2013, 12:21pm
Subject: Re: Housekeeping your machine.
 

What do you mean crap flew everywhere?  Stuff coming out of the wand or the steam blowing stuff around?  Purging the wand beforehand is very important to purge the water and 'wet' steam.

As for wiping of the steam wand I'm going to guess you're trying to wipe off with a dry rag.  Try a moist rag.  Also very important to purge AFTER steaming as well to get the milk out of the inside of the wand.

Very good idea about the grouphead brush.  Pretty much essential.
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pmaru77
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Posted Fri Aug 30, 2013, 12:45pm
Subject: Re: Housekeeping your machine.
 

ddubick Said:

What do you mean crap flew everywhere?  Stuff coming out of the wand or the steam blowing stuff around?  Purging the wand beforehand is very important to purge the water and 'wet' steam.

As for wiping of the steam wand I'm going to guess you're trying to wipe off with a dry rag.  Try a moist rag.  Also very important to purge AFTER steaming as well to get the milk out of the inside of the wand.

Very good idea about the grouphead brush.  Pretty much essential.

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Sorry, stuff in the drip tray.  And yes, a wet rag, and  yes to purging the wand.  I run the hot water through the wand till is stops singing, about 5 seconds.  That should ensure that the boiler is full.  Anyways, my soak and wipe before steaming seems to work fine.

RE: grouphead brush, I have the std one, but the one I'm refering to is like a halo shape.
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Posted Fri Aug 30, 2013, 12:51pm
Subject: Re: Housekeeping your machine.
 

pmaru77 Said:

 Also, cleaning the steam wand.  You always hear, now dont' forget to wie you wand off with a wet rag after steaming your milk.  Well, errr, doesn't work, period.  The milk is stuck and burnt on (silvia) unless perhaps you have a double wall wand.  So I use a cup with water to just soak the wand and the cup serves as a steam purger.

Posted August 30, 2013 link

I know it seems counter intuitive, but I find that giving the wand a good blast to get it nice and hot ("burn me" type) makes it easy to clean, but I also try to do it within a few minutes of steaming the milk anyway. Best cleaning cloth I've found is one of those thinnish cellulose type dishwashing sponges - a bit more than damp, but not dripping wet.  Works a treat, and you can just rinse it afterwards and if you want throw it in the microwave for a (short) while to sterilise it. Just don't overdo it or you'll have a smouldering heap.  The wand on mine doesn't have any kind of ridge where the tip screws on - it's a sort of smooth pear shape, so that makes it a bit easier perhaps.
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Posted Fri Aug 30, 2013, 1:33pm
Subject: Re: Housekeeping your machine.
 

Steam wand cleaning is best done right away...as mentioned, with a wet/moist rag.  I hold the rag, folded over in halves twice, under the wand when purging water out just before steaming.  It stays nice and hot.  Right after steaming, I swirl the pitcher with one hand while I grab the wet rag with my other hand, wrap it around the wand and wipe it down.  Then I open the valve for a second or two to purge any potentially sucked in milk.

I replied to your gasket brush question in the other thread.

 
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ddubick
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Posted Fri Aug 30, 2013, 3:02pm
Subject: Re: Housekeeping your machine.
 

Yes if your milk is burned onto the steam wand you're definately waiting too long to clean it.  Should be done right after steaming so it doesn't cook on.
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Posted Sat Aug 31, 2013, 9:37pm
Subject: Re: Housekeeping your machine.
 

cleaning your machine is really important. i try to clean it as frequent as possible to eliminate problems.

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pmaru77
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Posted Sun Sep 1, 2013, 12:09pm
Subject: Re: Housekeeping your machine.
 

ddubick Said:

Yes if your milk is burned onto the steam wand you're definately waiting too long to clean it.  Should be done right after steaming so it doesn't cook on.

Posted August 30, 2013 link

Turns out my rag was not wet enuf.  But it's hard to find my rag most of the time (wife) So I use paper towels also.  I need to get pretty rags.
For a knock box, I use a plastic square tupperware type box with a hinged lid.  Open, knock and close it............. turns out to be acceptable to the boss.
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Posted Sun Sep 1, 2013, 12:22pm
Subject: Re: Housekeeping your machine.
 

Get some micro fiber cloths. They make machine cleaning easier.
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