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Posted Fri Aug 30, 2013, 11:54am
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+1 to the hot water wand not being quite as useful as it sounds.  I also have used the steam wand to heat tea water/hot chocolate so I can control the temp.   Also pulling water from the group is no big deal and it is fresher than the boiled water in the boiler.

 
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Posted Fri Aug 30, 2013, 1:38pm
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-1 on the hot water wand in a family of 5 ours gets used daily. I don't see "much" difference in 212 and 200 degree water.  Personally i would rather crack the valve on the wand and be done in a couple seconds rather than waiting on the pump. I would like to see someone explain the notion that water has been boiled is somehow less "fresh" than water that has not. In my opinion it is rubbish.

It by no means would be a deal breaker with or without but in our case it gets used.

 
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Posted Fri Aug 30, 2013, 1:59pm
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John, don't you remember the whole discussion about how heating water kills it?  The guy was pulling shots at something like 60C, and wanted to find a "better" thermostat for his Silvia.  Discussion got WAAAAAAY out of hand, if you recall.

I find the pressure the water comes out of hot wand takes some real finesse to not splash scalding water on my hand...open the valve slightly too much and I get burned...and the increased wait time for an americano to cool is significant to my "customers" (essentially my Mom when she's visiting).  But apparently you are better at controlling that than me...kudos to you my friend!  Maybe this has something to do with my increasing the boiler temp to 260F...either that or I suck?

 
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Posted Fri Aug 30, 2013, 2:02pm
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Just for the sake of accuracy 2oz group head water cools down as you draw more than 2oz.  Not sure about the boiler direct.  If I had a family of 5 using it I would have the sink dispenser hot water thing.

 
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Posted Fri Aug 30, 2013, 8:33pm
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Ron i guess i missed that whole conversation which might be a good thing but i will see if can find it.

I run mine at 260 but we pull hot water into  a pyrex measuring cup or the bottom of a good size mug for a long black and I still manage to get hit once in a while.  Long blacks are a thing for my 19 year old and we are tea drinkers as well (Underwood go figure). Actually Lady Grey makes a beautiful ice tea.

 
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