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Posted Tue Aug 20, 2013, 7:59am
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I have gone from a Gaggia Espresso to the Classic. A lateral move, but it is more for learning common componets and adjustments. I got pretty good on the Espresso and felt a change was due. My issue is this, steaming. I just replaced the standard steam want to a Rancilio unit. Single hole. With the new wand this Classic is screaming like no tomorrow, I kind of need things in the morning quite and this isnt the way. I took the tip off and it is quieter, but I'm just heating milk this way, no foam at all. When I had the Espresso I used to preheat the milk to 120 deg to shorten the steam time and I used the plastice frothing tip to get okay results. With the classic, I'm doing the same preheating for now. Why am I getting that screaming steam and how do I quiet it down?
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Posted Tue Aug 20, 2013, 8:53am
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you are pre-heating the milk past the temperature where the stretch is done.  the stretch is the phase when air is introduced into the milk, then at about 100F or less you should be rolling the milk to get the microfoam texture, until you reach somewhere in the 135-155F range.  Your method is ruining any chance of making decent microfoam, let alone good.

The screaming noise is probably from having the want too close to the pitcher or at an angle that is too acute.  Good technique doesn't scream like that.  Practice while people are awake, then you'll be able to do it right in the am when it matters.

You definitely need to read the milk frothing guide here on this board.  Click on "Guides & How Tos" in the middle of the dark green bar at the top of this page, then find the "milk frothing guide"

oh, and put your tip back on, or maybe one with 2 or 4 holes, you're not going to get anywhere without it.

 
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Posted Tue Aug 20, 2013, 9:31am
Subject: Re: Steaming help
 

When I switched wands I looked at this and it helped.  Similar to what Ron said.

http://silviaschool.com/node/9

My wife noticed the screech with Silvia wand until I changed technique a bit.

 
D4F also at
http://www.gaggiausersgroup.com/
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Posted Tue Aug 20, 2013, 10:20am
Subject: Re: Steaming help
 

thanks for the help, I just need to get the skill and placement down using the new wand.
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