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Promo_Jake
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Posted Sat Aug 10, 2013, 5:22am
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Does anyone know what machine this is? i cannot find a machine like it online, it is about 20-25 years old. Still running well, but I would like to know what it is in case I have some problems.
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Posted Sat Aug 10, 2013, 7:51am
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Hey, that looks like my machine.   The ebay seller called it an Bezzera Office and it is a rebadged Brasilia Club.  Gaskets, o-rings etc are available from 3rd parties.  Parts may be listed under Brasilia Lady which is like the Club but with a different case.
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Posted Sat Aug 10, 2013, 10:07am
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Thank you, that is really helpful. What size tamper do I need? This machine has not been serviced in years, what should I do to maintain it?
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Posted Sun Aug 11, 2013, 4:29am
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Your machine will use a commercial Brasilia portafilter so the tamper size chart is 58mm.  But who knows whether your 25+ year old machine has its original basket.  It could easily have been replaced by a 57mm basket.

As for servicing, make sure you change the group gasket, descale and backflush. When I got my Bezzera, it was non-functional because the previous owner had never backflushed and the passages in the group were clogged with coffee gunk.  I had to use a paper clip to open up the passages.
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Posted Sat Aug 17, 2013, 7:45am
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coffee_no_sugar Said:

Your machine will use a commercial Brasilia portafilter so the tamper size chart is 58mm.  But who knows whether your 25+ year old machine has its original basket.  It could easily have been replaced by a 57mm basket.

As for servicing, make sure you change the group gasket, descale and backflush. When I got my Bezzera, it was non-functional because the previous owner had never backflushed and the passages in the group were clogged with coffee gunk.  I had to use a paper clip to open up the passages.

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when I do the backflush, is the water supposed to come out while the brew button is depressed, or only after it is released? i do not think this machine has ever been backflushed and when i did it the water only came out after I released the brew button. I am wondering if things are clogged up. If they are clogged, what is the best approach for opening up the passages?
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Posted Mon Aug 19, 2013, 8:39am
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Machine sounds good but perhaps dirty.  If you are doing a backflush, the water comes out after you release the brew button.  If things get clogged up, you'll know.  (Water won't make it into the portafilter or coffee grounds will be super wet after brewing your morning espresso.)

If the machine hasn't been backflushed for a long time, you might consider the other routine maintenance items such as cleaning the group, replacing the group gasket, washing the water tank and descaling.
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Posted Tue Aug 20, 2013, 2:22am
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Thank you so much for your help. I have cleaned my machine, descaled it, backflushed and replaced the group gasket. But I am still having a problem with thin and sour espresso *underextraction*? My tamper is small, it is about 40cm for a 58cm space, could this be the culprit? or should I be trying to solve this another way? The espresso comes out fast.
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Posted Tue Aug 20, 2013, 8:01pm
Subject: Re: help ID my old Bezzera machine
 

You have a good machine that is capable of very good espresso.  However, it is not as forgiving as your typical HX and you will have to up your game before you get the good stuff consistently.

Getting a better fitting tamper will help.  Probably won't solve all your problems.   I found that upping my game involved more than new gear.
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