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fozzybear
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Espresso: ECM Manufacture Technika IV
Grinder: Mazzer mini
Posted Fri Aug 16, 2013, 12:17pm
Subject: Re: ECM Recommendation?
 

I've had no problems with the original tip.   I follow a very standard steaming procedure and produce perfect micro-foam each time.
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MDiddy
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Location: PA
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Espresso: ECM Technika IV Profi
Grinder: Baratza Forte AP
Drip: Cuisinart DCC-1200
Posted Fri Aug 16, 2013, 1:37pm
Subject: Re: ECM Recommendation?
 

whatrulooknat Said:

Thank you for your informational responses!

Last question:

How about the steam power?  A few videos suggest that one should use the 4 hole tip vs. the original 2 hole tip.

What is your experience like?

Bob

Posted August 16, 2013 link

I've seen that video you speak of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osz7LbZMQkw

I'm not sure how she's not scalding the milk to hell by doing that, but I can guarantee you it takes no where near that long to steam a 12 or 20 oz pitcher.  Like Fozzy, I'm using the standard 2 hole tip, and can whip up microfoam in a 20 oz Toroid pitcher in about 30 seconds.
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Posted Fri Aug 16, 2013, 2:21pm
Subject: Re: ECM Recommendation?
 

whatrulooknat Said:

Thank you for your informational responses!

Last question:

How about the steam power?  A few videos suggest that one should use the 4 hole tip vs. the original 2 hole tip.

What is your experience like?

Bob

Posted August 16, 2013 link

I have a one hole,  a couple of 2 holes, and a 4 hole.  The best thing to do is keep several around and find the ones that work best for you.
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Vac Pot: Bodum Electric
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Posted Fri Aug 16, 2013, 3:07pm
Subject: Re: ECM Recommendation?
 

whatrulooknat Said:

Thank you for your informational responses!

Last question:

How about the steam power?  A few videos suggest that one should use the 4 hole tip vs. the original 2 hole tip.

What is your experience like?

Bob

Posted August 16, 2013 link

It depends upon how much milk one is steaming and the skill and ability of the operator to keep up with each tip.

 
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whatrulooknat
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Espresso: Brewtus
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Posted Mon Aug 19, 2013, 10:26am
Subject: Re: ECM Recommendation?
 

Funny, I was thinking exactly the same thing.

How could one steam (roast?) milk that long?

Thank you for your candid feedback regarding the Technika.  I am just about ready to pull the trigger!

Bob
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whatrulooknat
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Posted Thu Aug 22, 2013, 6:00am
Subject: Re: ECM Recommendation?
 

The Technika arrived yesterday - nice machine.

I had many concerns moving from a double boiler machine to an HX design.  My fears have been allayed.

Initial thoughts:  

- Beautiful styling, solid design.  It feels well built
- Incredibly quiet rotary pump, why would anyone consider *anything* else
- Hinged door for water reservoir is well designed as compared to other machines that require the complete lid to be removed
- Solid portafilters - will replace frying pan as wife's preferred disciplinary tool on husband
- Great steam pressure and plenty of it
- Drip tray is a tad shallower than I am used to.  It seems like this will create spray when evacuating the portafilter.  A minor annoyance.

Thank you all for your patience answering my questions.

Bob
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Espresso: ECM Vene. A1, La Cimbali M32
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Roaster: gave it a try, decided no
Posted Thu Aug 22, 2013, 6:05am
Subject: Re: ECM Recommendation?
 

Bob,
CONGRATS on the new machine! I love my ECM and I am sure you will love yours for a long time to come. E-N-J-O-Y!!

 
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Twood
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Posted Sun Aug 25, 2013, 12:38pm
Subject: Re: ECM Recommendation?
 

whatrulooknat Said:

The Technika arrived yesterday - nice machine.

I had many concerns moving from a double boiler machine to an HX design.  My fears have been allayed.

Initial thoughts:  

- Beautiful styling, solid design.  It feels well built
- Incredibly quiet rotary pump, why would anyone consider *anything* else
- Hinged door for water reservoir is well designed as compared to other machines that require the complete lid to be removed
- Solid portafilters - will replace frying pan as wife's preferred disciplinary tool on husband
- Great steam pressure and plenty of it
- Drip tray is a tad shallower than I am used to.  It seems like this will create spray when evacuating the portafilter.  A minor annoyance.

Thank you all for your patience answering my questions.

Bob

Posted August 22, 2013 link

Congrats on the new machine!  I am a month or so behind you and trying to decide between the Duetto III, or the ECM Technika IV.  I was encouraged at seeing the Controvento from ECM, but the $5,999.00 price tag at 1st-line is a bit prohibitive.  I am going to use the machine for my own personal use at home (espresso and the daily cappuccino), so nothing crazy, but I want to buy a machine that I don't have to replace in a few years.  The HX scares me a bit with temp control, but maybe I shouldn't be worried.  This machine is taking the place of a Jura Ena5, which I have been very disappointed with.  Please let me know your thoughts, and I would appreciate any insight from others.  As an FYI, the price between the ECM Technika and Duetto III is not a deciding factor for me.  Thanks!
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