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Posted Mon Aug 12, 2013, 7:00pm
Subject: Expobar Elegance 2 group
 

Jumped in to the ex-commercial HX machine pool today, and I'm trying to figure out exactly what I have on my hands.

I purchased it from someone who bought it off a church as part of a coffee cart for $1700. Apparently it was just the 2 group, and the cart - no grinder and um, portafilters... Reportedly made by some guy in LA, and that's all they knew. The new owners were a non-profit who wanted to set up a coffee cart for benefits. Stymied by bureaucratic red tape, it sat in storage for a while. I bought it for $50.

I just pulled the cases, drained the boiler, and gave it a visual inspection. Amazing how easy it is to pull these things apart, five minutes and you're down to the guts. So far it looks very clean, no evidence of leaks, or standing water or any coffee grounds for that matter. Groups, Boiler are stamped CREM, circa 2000. Wiring harness in good shape, etc. That's all I know so far. Anyone got any clue about where this came from, and how I should approach it as a newbie to these machines?

I do need some portafilters if anyone wants to sell any...

Since CG isn't particularly suited to attaching images, more pictures are here: http://tibfibphoto.zenfolio.com/p689445734

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Posted Mon Aug 12, 2013, 8:08pm
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Contact these folks:
http://www.pasquini.com/
If it isn't one of theirs, they will likely know its source.

 
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Posted Mon Aug 12, 2013, 9:06pm
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Its an Expobar Elegance
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Espresso: Expobar Elegance 2 group,...
Grinder: SJ, RR45, Zip
Vac Pot: aeropress
Drip: toddy
Roaster: KKTO inspired
Posted Mon Aug 12, 2013, 9:10pm
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kitt2000 Said:

Its an Expobar Elegance

Posted August 12, 2013 link

I just figured that out with google images.  :D  
edited the thread title to be more relevant.

\Ok, now that we know that, will any standard e61 PF work? Anything else I should know about this machine?

I located the manual for the New Elegance on Crem International's page... there are definitely a couple of tricks I wouldn't have figured out. The "2 short cup" secret switch, for one. Programming shot times on the left keypad sets the right, but not vice versa.

Click Here (download1.creminternational.com)
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Espresso: Expobar Elegance 2 group,...
Grinder: SJ, RR45, Zip
Vac Pot: aeropress
Drip: toddy
Roaster: KKTO inspired
Posted Mon Aug 12, 2013, 10:14pm
Subject: Re: ID unbadged 2 group HX
 

fluke Said:

will any standard e61 PF work?

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found the answer. http://www.cafeparts.com/productDetail1.asp?ItemID=48645

interesting, digging around a little into the history of Crem International which is now a Swedish concern. This machine probably has more spanish roots being an earlier example, pre-merger. I still have no idea why this unit has no markings, labels or even something indicating power requirements, UL etc.. The only thing that comes close is the plate (with a single rivet) affixed to the boiler. I initially took this to be specific to the boiler assy, but is it is the serial plate for the machine? "pruebas de presion" would refer to pressure testing, right?
http://tibfibphoto.zenfolio.com/img/s9/v88/p1814875150-3.jpg

I love this detail about spare parts (from the website, print the order and fax it to spain)

http://www.creminternational.com/default.asp?h=137&m=517

Due to technical problems, beyond Crem International Spain S.L.U., the orders placed through our website should have to be printed and sent to Crem International Spain S.L.U. to the fax number + 34 96 287 88 39 or by email to info.es@creminternational.com. We apolosize for any troubles this may cause you.

Thankfully cafeparts.com is much easier to deal with....
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