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Phil_In_Ottawa
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Posted Sun Aug 4, 2013, 12:04pm
Subject: Is This Normal or Should I Worry?
 

Hi all,

I've noticed something with my Vibiemme DD and I'm wondering if all machines work like this or if I should have mine looked at.

Click the link to see what happens every time I run the machine with the portafilter in place (either with coffee to pull a shot or with the blind filter when cleaning):

http://vimeo.com/71685901

What's happens is I raise the lever to start the pump, the lever then moves down a little, I hear the squeaky sound and that brass sleeve on the lever shaft moves out. When I lower the lever back down, the brass sleeve returns to it's original position.

Note that this does not happen if I just run water out of the group without the portafilter in place. So it's only when the group is under pressure.

Thanks for your help.
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Posted Sun Aug 4, 2013, 3:22pm
Subject: Re: Is This Normal or Should I Worry?
 

I assume you are talking about that little sound?  I'm not sure what this is but I use to also hear that on my Giotto P.  I don't think you need to worry about it.
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Posted Sun Aug 4, 2013, 5:03pm
Subject: Re: Is This Normal or Should I Worry?
 

The movement of the bushing is not abnormal. The squeak is not a good thing. It might be the spring, or it might be the bushing, but something is rubbing and needs to be cleaned and lubed.
It is time to disassemble the cam assembly , clean it, and lube it:
How-To 18 - Simple Lubrication of the E-61 GroupThat's the one you need now. it is a very simple job. Use Dow 111 silicone lube.
The article includes a video that I narrated while I did the job, without a script, and it took less then ten minutes to do.

How-To 19 - Overhauling and Lubricating the E-61 Group. Save this one for later.

 
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Posted Tue Aug 6, 2013, 1:57pm
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frcn Said:

The movement of the bushing is not abnormal. The squeak is not a good thing. It might be the spring, or it might be the bushing, but something is rubbing and needs to be cleaned and lubed.
It is time to disassemble the cam assembly , clean it, and lube it:
How-To 18 - Simple Lubrication of the E-61 GroupThat's the one you need now. it is a very simple job. Use Dow 111 silicone lube.
The article includes a video that I narrated while I did the job, without a script, and it took less then ten minutes to do.

How-To 19 - Overhauling and Lubricating the E-61 Group. Save this one for later.

Posted August 4, 2013 link

Randy, your site is a great reference to have handy!  Good to know how easy the lube job is going to be (once I finally get my machine...)
One quick comment: you might want to fix the links when you click of the images under "REMOVAL of OPERATING LEVER ASSEMBLY" (one is "not found", the other simply takes you to the top of the page).
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Posted Tue Aug 6, 2013, 2:30pm
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Thanks a lot Randy. Really appreciate your help and advice.
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Posted Wed Aug 7, 2013, 9:46am
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Wow! That Dow 111 lubricant is not cheap stuff up here in the Great White North.

I just found some locally at Acklands-Grainger: $32.35 for the 5.3oz tube. Yikes! I hope it lasts a long time.

Amazon.com does have it cheaper but they can't ship it to Canada. Darn.

If anyone knows of a cheaper source around Ottawa or elsewhere (in Canada or wherever) that will ship it to me, please let me know.

Thanks.
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Posted Wed Aug 7, 2013, 11:19am
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I found it for $1.57 for a 6 g "pillow pack" bag. Pretty much all you will need in a service. If they will ship to you, it is an option.
Good luck.
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OH, BTW, I know nothing of the company it was the result of a google search.

 
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Posted Wed Aug 7, 2013, 11:39am
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Here is what I bought Click Here (www.ebay.com) You can find different sizes on ebay, but for a small container that is the cheapest I found.
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Posted Wed Aug 7, 2013, 1:40pm
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Thanks for all the kind comments, folks. The coffee community for me has always been a give-and-take sort of thing and it feels good to be able to give.

Zevi Said:

)
One quick comment: you might want to fix the links when you click of the images under "REMOVAL of OPERATING LEVER ASSEMBLY" (one is "not found", the other simply takes you to the top of the page).

Posted August 6, 2013 link

Thanks for the heads up on that. The links have been fixed and uploaded..

 
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Posted Thu Aug 8, 2013, 9:41am
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calblacksmith Said:

I found it for $1.57 for a 6 g "pillow pack" bag. Pretty much all you will need in a service. If they will ship to you, it is an option.
Good luck.
Click Here (www.freshwatersystems.com)

OH, BTW, I know nothing of the company it was the result of a google search.

Posted August 7, 2013 link

Thanks for the link. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any information about shipping to Canada.

LowThudd Said:

Here is what I bought Click Here (www.ebay.com) You can find different sizes on ebay, but for a small container that is the cheapest I found.

Posted August 7, 2013 link

Thanks Randy. They will ship to Canada but at a cost of $25. Add to that the cost of the lube itself  and the US/CDN$ exchange rate and it makes the $32 price for the much larger 5.3oz tube I found locally look like a real bargain.

I think I'll get it from the local shop.

Thanks again for the replies.
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