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Posted Mon Jul 29, 2013, 8:14am
Subject: Anyone seen the new BES920?
 

Just wondering. I was kinda hoping to see photos and specs by now. Didn't have any luck with web search.
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Posted Mon Jul 29, 2013, 12:59pm
Subject: Re: Anyone seen the new BES920?
 

You can log on to the Australian site CoffeeSnobs and do a search for BES920. Its supposedly coming out there around Xmas. I believe its called the ORACLE, at least that was what it was called when introduced at the SCCA in Boston. There are two videos you can access and some pictures from Boston. One video was obviously produced by Breville and appears to represent somewhat of a blind taste test. The other one has some latte art using the output from the frother. There are some specs but they are for the Aussie machine. I do not think US specs are out yet. If the US machines have the 2400W heating element we will need a 20A circuit unless the elements cycle.   Here's what they say are the differences:

1) Self descaling system - able to be descaled by the user
2) More accurate shot dose using a single flow meter design
3) Improved design on double spout
4) Improved design on filter holder ramps
5) Improved material on shower head o-ring to reduce corrosion
6) Improved filter baskets design to reduce puk sticking
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Posted Mon Jul 29, 2013, 1:14pm
Subject: Re: Anyone seen the new BES920?
 

CORRECTION - I believe the BES920 is a revised (improved?) BES900 and the other machine, the ORACLE, is the BES980. In any event, the best source at present is CoffeeSnobs.
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Posted Mon Jul 29, 2013, 1:43pm
Subject: Re: Anyone seen the new BES920?
 

lowellw2 Said:

CORRECTION - I believe the BES920 is a revised (improved?) BES900 and the other machine, the ORACLE, is the BES980. In any event, the best source at present is CoffeeSnobs.

Posted July 29, 2013 link

I assumed if they announced it over the weekend, there was a protype or something. Was interested in what it looks like. I know that one of the big gripes about the 900 was that you had to send it to them for descaling... evidently they have seen the error of their ways.

It is an impresive looking machine no matter how you slice it and the people that own them seem to be pretty loyal even though a lot of community members poopoo Breville based on their past products. For myself, I wonder how long Breville will support the product with parts. Now that the 900 is evidently going to be history, it would be nice to know if they will hang in there with parts support past the warranty period. I know that everyone says they have great customer service.
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Posted Mon Jul 29, 2013, 1:54pm
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Still made in china?
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Posted Tue Jul 30, 2013, 7:34pm
Subject: Re: Anyone seen the new BES920?
 

Yep, still made in China like a lot of products. Like what I'm typing on right now. Long ago I bought a Chevette instead of a Corolla.  Big mistake.  As to descaling the Oracle, there's a picture of the descaling ports on the Australian site I referenced above. I'd post it but I do not know how to post pictures.  Maybe it's because my iPad was made in China. LOL.
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Posted Tue Jul 30, 2013, 8:53pm
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I always thought that manufacturers went to China for their quality control and old world craftsmanship. :)
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