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carvitto
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Posted Fri Jul 26, 2013, 1:38pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia ...espresso making frustration
 

I've had the Silvia for 4-5 years, but its only been in the last 2 years that I've raised my expectations to "Super Anal" and have been going to Seattle and having some properly prepared espresso that I realized that I've been WAY OFF. I've read all the articles (though remembering everything is a challenge) and have been fine-tuning for consistently good espresso. I have noticed one weird quirk.

Sometimes I'll pour several shots (6+) in a short amount of time and then the shots pour SUPER FAST (like blowout fast)! No matter how fine the grind or pressure of the tamp. I have a bottomless, which has helped me but still I struggle.

Some basic questions:
Do you count extraction time when the coffee starts to pour or do you count from the time you push "Go"?

Is anyone able to maintain the "mouse tail' throughout the pour? I notice towards the end of my shots this "tail" grows bigger.
Would you say that at the start of the pour Dripping of espresso is okay?

Thanks,
justin
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Posted Fri Jul 26, 2013, 8:24pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia ...espresso making frustration
 

carvitto Said:

I've had the Silvia for 4-5 years, but its only been in the last 2 years that I've raised my expectations to "Super Anal" and have been going to Seattle and having some properly prepared espresso that I realized that I've been WAY OFF. I've read all the articles (though remembering everything is a challenge) and have been fine-tuning for consistently good espresso. I have noticed one weird quirk.

Posted July 26, 2013 link

been there, you will get it.

carvitto Said:

Some basic questions:
Do you count extraction time when the coffee starts to pour or do you count from the time you push "Go"?

Is anyone able to maintain the "mouse tail' throughout the pour? I notice towards the end of my shots this "tail" grows bigger.
Would you say that at the start of the pour Dripping of espresso is okay?

Posted July 26, 2013 link

a) both.  depends on who you listen to.  what really matters is to do it the same, all the time, figure out what time makes for shots you like, then shoot for that by modifying grind, and possibly even dose.  To me, extraction starts when water hits the puck.  however, red bird says shoot for 28 sec from first drip

b) yes, and yes

remember to always focus on what ends up in the cup.  keeping an eye on how the extraction behaves is great, especially if you can a) get it to behave the same every time and b) get the shot to taste good. then when it misbehaves, you figure out how to get it back in line, but once again, what that behavior is, will vary.  I've seen extractions go thicker when blonding and I've seen them go thinner, I think that's related to bean freshness and grind fineness mostly, and fineness is intricately related to dose and bean freshness.

 
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Always remember the most important thing is what ends up in your cup!
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kolu
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Posted Sat Jul 27, 2013, 4:59am
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carvitto Said:

Is anyone able to maintain the "mouse tail' throughout the pour? I notice towards the end of my shots this "tail" grows bigger.

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Check your OPV. Installing a new high quality adjustable OPV in my Gaggia Espresso solved this problem with VST baskets in my case.
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carvitto
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Joined: 30 Apr 2013
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Location: Leavenworth, WA
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Espresso: Silvia
Grinder: Vario Baratza
Drip: Aeropress
Roaster: Kuma, Verve, At home
Posted Sat Jul 27, 2013, 12:44pm
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia ...espresso making frustration
 

I changed my portafilter basket from the triple  that the bottomless came with, to the double from the original pf and it made a world of difference. It was like magic.
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faster
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Espresso: ISOMAC TEA II
Grinder: Rossi RR45
Roaster: PIDed, Modified "My...
Posted Wed Jul 31, 2013, 7:46am
Subject: Re: Rancilio Silvia ...espresso making frustration
 

kolu Said:

Check your OPV. Installing a new high quality adjustable OPV in my Gaggia Espresso solved this problem with VST baskets in my case.

Posted July 27, 2013 link

No need to, I already have a high quality OPV installed. They come standard in V.3 Silvia.

But what made a big difference is the added PID...I put one together for about 50 bucks (look-alike to a famous $250 model) mounted under, in a plastic box, not metal.

And with time, things are improving in general...;-)
cheers
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