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CarloM
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Posted Thu Jul 25, 2013, 1:58pm
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Hi Rob,

Thanks for the update. Yeah I guess you're right about what you've written re: water hardness. One thing I was considering too was getting a 5 gallon tank from a water service, maybe doing the distilled + filtered water, confirmed with hardness meter for my water source. Living in an apartment I won't be able to hook up the V2B to a water source, but I may do the distilled+filtered water tank and a Flojet water pump to simulate a water line feed. That would be slightly more money up front for the pump but would save me money with filters in the long run and theoretically help the machine run better over time.
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Posted Thu Jul 25, 2013, 5:52pm
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DavecUK Said:

Yes to first point...UK version has the system I specifically specified and drew up for QM (we pay extra for that), US version has the one CC uses on a few QM machines already and the Australian version....dunno, mebbe wont have anything?

Posted July 24, 2013 link



Hi Dave,
My machine should hit early next week according to FedEx - it's winging its way from the China depot now (via France, from Italy).
I expect it'll be in Australia tomorrow and then internally routed to my state after that.

Anyway - since we can't PM I've updated my public email in my profile - if you'd be so kind as to use that to pass on your optimised PID settings for your UK prototype.

Cheers
Frankie
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cuznvin
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Posted Fri Jul 26, 2013, 11:43am
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MDiddy Said:

Not sure where you got the info that the vac breaker drains inside the machine, but that's not case.  It drains right into the drip tray via a small exit tube at the bottom of the front of the machine beneath the group.

Also, as the machine has a rotary vane pump (which is quiet as a mouse BTW) there is no OPV in the machine.  It actually has an expansion valve, which again, drains into the drip tray.

The only thing that would drain inside the machine would the boiler pressure safety valve which opens when there's a problem with the boiler to stop it from exploding.  But if that opens, you have other problems to worry about other than water draining into your machine.  :)

Here's a good explanation of the setup:

Click Here (www.home-barista.com)

Posted July 23, 2013 link

So did you check you Vacuum breaker valve to see that it does not drain into the drip tray?? I was wondering how you access the expansion valve because it is not under the cup warming tray as I thought..
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Posted Fri Jul 26, 2013, 7:11pm
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gz20tt Said:

Posted July 25, 2013 link

Hi Dave,
My machine should hit early next week according to FedEx - it's winging its way from the China depot now (via France, from Italy).
I expect it'll be in Australia tomorrow and then internally routed to my state after that.

Anyway - since we can't PM I've updated my public email in my profile - if you'd be so kind as to use that to pass on your optimised PID settings for your UK prototype.

Cheers
Frankie

When you get it, let us know what you think of the quality of the stainless and the flex of the front panel.. Thanks!!
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Posted Mon Jul 29, 2013, 9:24am
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Any update on DavecUK's review??
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DavecUK
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Posted Mon Jul 29, 2013, 5:23pm
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Mort108 Said:

Any update on DavecUK's review??

Posted July 29, 2013 link

Got the production machine this afternoon via air freight from Italy, so starting work on it and updating my review documentation, plus all new photos. A few phone calls needed to be made to ensure the portafilters were to the spec I wanted, because the machine came with the US portafilter set and not the ones I wanted for the UK machines. I have had it up and running, everything is nice, PID set to the specification I gave them for UK machines. I did advise them to use it as the base specification world wide (apart from the US where CC will not doubt have his own ideal settings), so it will be interesting if the Australian machines come set the same way? QM didn't initially get the point that the basic standard settings input by Gicar were not right for the machine and it's did not do them any good to have machines that were out there, not working as well as they should be.

It will be nice to check on all the changes I wanted, plus a few other nice features that have crept in....one minor irritation, but it will be in the review.
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Posted Mon Jul 29, 2013, 5:34pm
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DavecUK Said:

Got the production machine this afternoon via air freight from Italy, so starting work on it and updating my review documentation, plus all new photos. A few phone calls needed to be made to ensure the portafilters were to the spec I wanted, because the machine came with the US portafilter set and not the ones I wanted for the UK machines. I have had it up and running, everything is nice, PID set to the specification I gave them for UK machines. I did advise them to use it as the base specification world wide (apart from the US where CC will not doubt have his own ideal settings), so it will be interesting if the Australian machines come set the same way? QM didn't initially get the point that the basic standard settings input by Gicar were not right for the machine and it's did not do them any good to have machines that were out there, not working as well as they should be.

It will be nice to check on all the changes I wanted, plus a few other nice features that have crept in....one minor irritation, but it will be in the review.

Posted July 29, 2013 link

Why would the UK machine have different portafilters?
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Posted Mon Jul 29, 2013, 5:44pm
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

DavecUK Said:

Got the production machine this afternoon via air freight from Italy, so starting work on it and updating my review documentation, plus all new photos. A few phone calls needed to be made to ensure the portafilters were to the spec I wanted, because the machine came with the US portafilter set and not the ones I wanted for the UK machines. I have had it up and running, everything is nice, PID set to the specification I gave them for UK machines. I did advise them to use it as the base specification world wide (apart from the US where CC will not doubt have his own ideal settings), so it will be interesting if the Australian machines come set the same way? QM didn't initially get the point that the basic standard settings input by Gicar were not right for the machine and it's did not do them any good to have machines that were out there, not working as well as they should be.

It will be nice to check on all the changes I wanted, plus a few other nice features that have crept in....one minor irritation, but it will be in the review.

Posted July 29, 2013 link

I'll have some hard data coming soon Dave.
It's listed as being on board with the driver today. (It was actually all cleared for delivery yesterday but FedEx wouldn't put it on the truck as it was posted Economy and not Priority - go figure)

Expect a photoblitz in this thread - or I'll set something up on Picasa or Box or something.

I'll post the out of the box specs as I go. (And the portafilters)
I expect that your machine came off the line as mine did - July 23 was the ship date.

New feature creep?
Interesting!

I am literally salivating in anticipation right now.
(I also roasted up 600g of a favorite Ethiopian Harar over the weekend that I'll be using to dial it in)
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DavecUK
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Posted Mon Jul 29, 2013, 7:42pm
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cuznvin Said:

Why would the UK machine have different portafilters?

Posted July 29, 2013 link

Just regional differences I guess. My first QM DB came with a type of porta filters I really liked and so I specified that they keep it for all the UK machines. As to the why there are 2 different types....I have no idea.
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Posted Mon Jul 29, 2013, 7:45pm
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DavecUK Said:

Just regional differences I guess. My first QM DB came with a type of porta filters I really liked and so I specified that they keep it for all the UK machines. As to the why there are 2 different types....I have no idea.

Posted July 29, 2013 link

You said you requested portafilters to your specs.. So what do you mean you have no idea? What exactly did you specify??
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