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JuanR
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Posted Fri Jul 19, 2013, 10:37am
Subject: Question about Gaggia machines
 

I currently use a Saeco Poemia with a depressurized portafilter.  It works great; I get 30 second 2oz. pulls that are thick, creamy and really delicious.  I know that they can be better though, and was looking around to see what my options are.  I've been doing a lot of research but wanted to ask opinions specific to my situation here.

I am trying to stay within a budget of about $500.  I was looking at the Rancilio Silvia, which is slightly higher than that budget, and I also hear that it is very finicky and has given many users problems over the years.  The other recommendation I see a lot is for the line of Gaggia machines (Classic, Baby, Baby Class).

My question is, how much of a true upgrade would these Gaggias be from what I'm using now?  I'm pretty happy with what I have, I just know that more is possible; so I don't want to "upgrade" to something that is going to essentially keep me at the same level.  I would rather just wait until I can spend more to get something truly better.

Any advice would be appreciated.
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Posted Fri Jul 19, 2013, 7:58pm
Subject: Re: Question about Gaggia machines
 

As always, keep in mind that the grinder matters more.  What are you currently using?

JuanR Said:

My question is, how much of a true upgrade would these Gaggias be from what I'm using now?

Posted July 19, 2013 link

IMO going from an SBDU to an SBDU isn't an upgrade.  It's a sidestep.  Again, don't overlook your grinder.
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JuanR
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Posted Sat Jul 20, 2013, 6:01am
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Takeshi, thanks; that's what I pretty much suspected.  I'll just wait until I can afford something truly better.

I am currently using a Hario Mini Mill grinder, which is more than adequate to make these thick, syrupy shots.  I am looking at getting a Baratza Preciso in the near future to speed things up and get more flexibility when dialing in; but the set-up I have now gives me better shots at home than I can get in all but maybe three or four shops in town.  So I'm in no hurry.

Thanks again for the feedback, that was really helpful.
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Posted Sun Jul 21, 2013, 8:53am
Subject: Re: Question about Gaggia machines
 

Juan,

Baratza posts their reconditioned grinders on their website every thursday.  They sell first come, first served.  The Vario goes for $360.00 plus shipping.

As long as you are happy with the performance of your Saeco, no need to change.  If your Saeco quits working, address a replacement machine at that time.  

Fred
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Posted Sun Jul 21, 2013, 12:29pm
Subject: Re: Question about Gaggia machines
 

Fred1 Said:

Juan,

Baratza posts their reconditioned grinders on their website every thursday.  They sell first come, first served.  The Vario goes for $360.00 plus shipping.

As long as you are happy with the performance of your Saeco, no need to change.  If your Saeco quits working, address a replacement machine at that time.  

Fred

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+1  If you are happy with your Saeco I would get a better grinder like the Preciso or Vario.  Maybe even a full commercial one.  I own the Silvia I do know now that I would be just as happy with say the Via Venesia. :P  Unless the specs are needed like pulling more shots or stronger steam you are just buying a bigger better version of what you already have.  If you are looking to upgrade I would save and down the road go for an HX or double boiler.
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JuanR
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Posted Mon Jul 22, 2013, 5:29am
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Fred, thanks for the heads up on the Baratza deals.  I'll have to check that out.

Thank you all for your feedback, it really has helped me to make up my mind.
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