ThomasK Senior Member Joined: 2 Jul 2013 Posts: 24 Location: Atlanta, GA Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: Bialetti Grinder: Kitchenaid Pro Line Drip: Technivorm Mocca Master
Posted Fri Jul 19, 2013, 5:03am Subject: Re: Atlanta gatherings for CG members?
You have made up your mind and that is fine. IT is your money and you have to live with it. It is about 1,400 pounds. I believe it is 80 dollars in shipping to the USA.
Read your links.
"What really struck me the most is the consistency of the shots. I had read a lot about the L1's consistency, but I had no real idea of what it meant"
That statement is what is important to me. Not wavy look to the chrome on the bottom of the lever. I would be happier to have no chrome at all, I think it is a pain to clean.
Things like people putting GS/3s and speedsters up for sale after getting one is what is selling me..... They have most expensive and are trading them for a cheaper machine.... That makes me happy as I could never afford a GS/3 or a speedster.
No need to get so defensive about the Londinium - the main QA issues to me were the frame problems, and the poorly built panels. If a company lets that pass through QA, then I don't trust the rest. I'm originally an engineer and started working in Japanese industry (in Japan) after engineering school - so I'm admittedly biased toward zero defects.
Another strike against the Londinium is the freight from the UK - what if it gets damaged in transit? Customs issues? What if it has yet another QA flaw? Do I have to return the unit, wait for parts, rebuild myself? Seems like you're setting yourself up for too many potential headaches. I'd rather deal with a US distributor with a post sales track record of providing good service.
Above said without having any other reference to the machines than various reviews and articles - and not just the ones I quoted. The most important isn't listening to the guy who gets a unit done properly, it's those who get Monday/Friday units - that where the TRUE consistency lies. From what I can see, Londinium needs a few more years to sort out these issues.
Coffeenoobie Senior Member Joined: 11 Dec 2011 Posts: 3,075 Location: PNW Expertise: I like coffee
Espresso: N S Oscar Grinder: K30 & Vario W
Posted Fri Jul 19, 2013, 12:19pm Subject: Re: Atlanta gatherings for CG members?
I understand not wanting to be an early adopter. I completely get that. I am not trying to change your mind, I already admitted defeat. I just answered your question on price. I also said what really mattered to me out of what you linked for me. That and it is a machine I can afford one day that the taste in the cup is beating the crema de la crema machines that I can never afford. (yes I know it is crème de la crème I was making a joke)
Buying advice: GRINDER GRINDER GRINDER. Don't cheap out on the grinder.
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