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Location: Atlanta, GA
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Espresso: Bialetti
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Posted Fri Jul 19, 2013, 5:03am
Subject: Re: Atlanta gatherings for CG members?

Coffeenoobie Said:

You have made up your mind and that is fine.  IT is your money and you have to live with it.  It is about 1,400 pounds.  I believe it is 80 dollars in shipping to the USA.

Read your links.  

"What really struck me the most is the consistency of the shots. I had read a lot about the L1's consistency, but I had no real idea of what it meant"

That statement is what is important to me.  Not wavy look to the chrome on the bottom of the lever.  I would be happier to have no chrome at all, I think it is a pain to clean.

Things like people putting GS/3s and speedsters up for sale after getting one is what is selling me.....  They have most expensive and are trading them for a cheaper machine.... That makes me happy as I could never afford a GS/3 or a speedster.

Posted July 19, 2013 link

No need to get so defensive about the Londinium - the main QA issues to me were the frame problems, and the poorly built panels.  If a company lets that pass through QA, then I don't trust the rest.  I'm originally an engineer and started working in Japanese industry (in Japan) after engineering school - so I'm admittedly biased toward zero defects.

Another strike against the Londinium is the freight from the UK - what if it gets damaged in transit? Customs issues? What if it has yet another QA flaw?  Do I have to return the unit, wait for parts, rebuild myself?  Seems like you're setting yourself up for too many potential headaches.  I'd rather deal with a US distributor with a post sales track record of providing good service.

Above said without having any other reference to the machines than various reviews and articles - and not just the ones I quoted.  The most important isn't listening to the guy who gets a unit done properly, it's those who get Monday/Friday units - that where the TRUE consistency lies.  From what I can see, Londinium needs a few more years to sort out these issues.
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Posted Fri Jul 19, 2013, 12:19pm
Subject: Re: Atlanta gatherings for CG members?

I understand not wanting to be an early adopter.   I completely get that.  I am not trying to change your mind, I already admitted defeat.  I just answered your question on price. I also said what really mattered to me out of what you linked for me.   That and it is a machine I can afford one day that the taste in the cup is beating the crema de la crema machines that I can never afford.  (yes I know it is crème de la crème I was making a joke)


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