Posted Tue Jul 2, 2013, 8:39am Subject: Re: Suggestions for an espresso machine for multiple users
If you think that the full-automatic option is a good one (i.e. like a semi-auto machine but with different buttons for different cup sizes) then the Bezzera BZ-07SDE is an option at $1300 from 1st-line.
One suggestion I have that has made it easy for me to teach my girlfriend to make decent espresso on my BZ-07 semi-auto - consider one of the Baratza grinders with weight based dosing - either Preciso with Esatto attachment or the Vario-W (latter is probably better). Being able to set the dose weight and push a button to get the right dose of grinds makes it much less finicky to get good shots, and is far more likely to be done correctly than weighing beans and single dosing. Or consider a different way of getting consistent dosing without weighing - how good are grinders with dosers at giving consistent doses? I haven't used one since I've been weighing doses. I think dosing consistently is more important that tamping to an exact pressure.
Coffeenoobie Senior Member Joined: 11 Dec 2011 Posts: 3,070 Location: PNW Expertise: I like coffee
Espresso: N S Oscar Grinder: K30 & Vario W
Posted Tue Jul 2, 2013, 9:44am Subject: Re: Suggestions for an espresso machine for multiple users
The Vario w would help getting everyone using the same amount of grinds and that is one of the most important steps that you can automate. The volume dosing from the machine would probably help in much the same way.
Buying advice: GRINDER GRINDER GRINDER. Don't cheap out on the grinder.
wtmcgowin Senior Member Joined: 1 Jul 2013 Posts: 4 Location: Mobile, AL Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Tue Jul 9, 2013, 1:40pm Subject: Re: Suggestions for an espresso machine for multiple users
Well, after reading the responses here, looking some more, and a couple of hours on the phone with the excellent folks at 1st Line (thanks guys!), I pulled the trigger on an ECM Technika, a Quamar M80 electronic grinder and a calibrated tamper. Spent a little more than I planned (OK, a good bit more), but the ECM was a return so Jim gave me a bit of a price break. I decided to get a machine that will hopefully last a very long time-with proper maintenance and the occasional repair, of course.
Got a great roaster right around the corner from my office. I've always bought his SO coffees for my drip and French Press, but he also has a nice medium roast blend he uses for his espresso. I like it, so I'll start there.
Now to set all this up and figure out what on earth I am doing...
emradguy Senior Member Joined: 31 Mar 2011 Posts: 3,586 Location: Houston Expertise: I live coffee
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Posted Tue Jul 9, 2013, 4:37pm Subject: Re: Suggestions for an espresso machine for multiple users
awesome! Thanks for updating everyone. A fantastic place to start that covers about everything you need to think about in preparing espresso drinks is article 12, Easy Guide to Better Espresso at Home, found under how to on www.espressomyespresso.com
. Always remember the most important thing is what ends up in your cup!
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