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Posted Thu Jun 27, 2013, 12:36pm
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Has anyone had luck getting good coffee from the DeLonghi Magnifica ESAM 3300? This is the main machine at our office. I've tried a few different settings, but have not been able to produce a cup that I'm happy with. It appears the beans and water are decent. Wondered if anyone had some settings or operational insights that are not in the manual. Thanks.
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Posted Thu Jun 27, 2013, 1:06pm
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It's a superauto, a low end one at that, even highend $$ superautos make crap coffee vs cheap semi-auto machines. Superautos just don't have capable grinders or tamp correctly or hit right temps let alone almost no temp stability b/c of all the plastic inside etc. What beans are you using though, you still would want to try fresh roasted and more of a medium roast as superautos are not fond of dark roast especially if oily, and if the beans are store bought/stale well that goes without saying lol. When you say water is decent, how's it being filled (tap, filtered, bottled etc?)
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Posted Thu Jun 27, 2013, 2:14pm
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Hi CMIN. Thanks for the insight on the machine. It's pretty weird to watch it work. I never see dark brown coffee come out. It starts a crema color, then I just see water come out on top of it. I've fussed with the controls, but can't seem to get much different result. Thought maybe it was just me, but I bet the temp has a lot to do with it.

The beans are roasted within the past week or so. They are from a pretty popular local roasting company, and are a darker roast (i.e. probably French).

The water is filtered tap. I'm picky about water, and this tastes pretty good on its own.
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Posted Thu Jun 27, 2013, 3:23pm
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DenVogel Said:

Hi CMIN. Thanks for the insight on the machine. It's pretty weird to watch it work. I never see dark brown coffee come out. It starts a crema color, then I just see water come out on top of it. I've fussed with the controls, but can't seem to get much different result. Thought maybe it was just me, but I bet the temp has a lot to do with it.

The beans are roasted within the past week or so. They are from a pretty popular local roasting company, and are a darker roast (i.e. probably French).

The water is filtered tap. I'm picky about water, and this tastes pretty good on its own.

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Try a medium roast, superautos don't play nice with dark roast and especially a french will cause them to gum up. But even with a medium it'll pry still be pretty poor, just the nature of superautos. may need to be cleaned if they've been running dark roast through it.

If I were you i would just get an aeropress and cheap hand grinder for work, will be 100x better lol.
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Posted Fri Jun 28, 2013, 6:55am
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CMIN Said:

If I were you i would just get an aeropress and cheap hand grinder for work, will be 100x better lol.

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I may end up this route, but was trying to avoid it. Part of it is time and mess. The other is office relations. They just got the DeLonghi machine recently, and the office seems excited about it. I don't want to be the "coffee snob" if I can help it. :P
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Posted Fri Jun 28, 2013, 8:42am
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I have / had (until the other day) an EAM3500 probably similar to the 3300 and I found certain beans made a hige difference, best of all the bean I find which tastes the best in my machine are of lower cost.

Kimbo - Extra Creme

it was about 13$ a bag and tasted better out of this machine than the 28$ Lavazza
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Posted Fri Jun 28, 2013, 10:13am
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Try an aeropress at your desk.
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Posted Sat Jun 29, 2013, 6:57am
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Coffeenoobie Said:

Try an aeropress at your desk.
http://aerobie.com/products/aeropress.htm

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Doesn't that put me back in the tea kettle, coffee grinder, scale, and timer bucket? That's what I'm trying to avoid, due to mess and lack of time.

I do French Press at home and love it, but I don't think I can swing it at work.
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Posted Sat Jun 29, 2013, 8:19am
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Maybe  you can "diplomatically" convince them that dark beans, even french, are going to gum up a grinder that will be finicky anyway due to the steam within the machine. Clean the grinder, then start fresh with a lighter roast, you'll probably find the results more palatable. You'll probably have some naysayers thinking they need to be dark roasted for espresso, be ready to counter with the fact that the better espresso shops use lighter roasts these days, "try it you'll like it" if they really don't they can go back to the darker roasts- and cross your fingers.
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Posted Sun Jun 30, 2013, 8:02am
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CoffeeRon Said:

Maybe  you can "diplomatically" convince them that dark beans...

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I'm thinking there won't be many people in the office this week. I may do a trial run with beans I'm familiar with and see how it goes.
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