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nmix
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Posted Tue Nov 20, 2012, 12:00pm
Subject: Warm up time of Quick Mill Monza
 

Hi to all,
I have found a used Quick Mill Monza MOD.05009 (superautomatic coffee machine which uses two thermoblocks) and intend to buy it.
Could any Monza owner inform me about  the warm up time it is required  for being ready ???
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Posted Tue Dec 11, 2012, 6:30pm
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I've had one (its the newer version model 5010) for a few days and many many shots to test it and adjust. The temperature readout says "ready" in about 5 minutes from cold startup in the morning, however, given the huge thermal mass of all the metal components in this beast (no plastic whatsoever!), I would suggest equilibrium would be closer to 10 minutes. As I said,  I am still experimenting with settings, but the shots this machine produces even now, are way beyond any superauto out there and are starting to approach "good to great". Ok, they will never be on par with a good semi auto machine, but damn close!
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nmix
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Posted Tue Dec 11, 2012, 10:35pm
Subject: Re: Warm up time of Quick Mill Monza
 

Iím receiving my Monza the upcoming Saturday, ready for experiments. Mine has got two thermo-blocks and not a boiler.
Keep in mind that I Ďve already got a Delonghi Magnifica superauto for comparing each other. I 'll let you know my impressions then.
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Posted Fri Dec 14, 2012, 11:49am
Subject: Re: Warm up time of Quick Mill Monza
 

I just received my Monza yesterday. I'm very interested in if anyone has any recommended settings or tips to start with. Obviously some individual tweaks will be required depending on the beans, etc.... but any advice on how to get the most out of this machine or what you found to work well for you without troubleshooting for the next 6 months would be much appreciated.
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Posted Tue Dec 18, 2012, 7:55am
Subject: Re: Warm up time of Quick Mill Monza
 

bump - Someone out there has had to have some experience dialing in the Monza. I'm particularly interested in what you found to work best for settings like pre-infusion time, grouphead temp. Any other best practices to walk through to get it dialed in would also be helpful.

Thanks
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nmix
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Posted Tue Dec 18, 2012, 9:03am
Subject: Re: Warm up time of Quick Mill Monza
 

I could not help you so far due to the fact my used Monza , MOD.05009 DECA ,has got very bad  burrs and should be replaced. Thus I hadnít the opportunity to tweak its performance. Just as a starting point you can set the brewing temperature at 92į C and group temp  about  90į- 91į C. Personally  with regards to the volume ,Iím going to adjust the coffee button  as double shot and espresso button as an espresso (enhanced per 20%). The grinderís coffee quantity would be approximately the max of the level I can, as concerning the coffee button, about 9-10 grams would be great for the espresso one .For achieving the last,it is required a scale.
Hope that helps
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Posted Tue Dec 18, 2012, 7:01pm
Subject: Re: Warm up time of Quick Mill Monza
 

Thanks. That's helpful. I'll have more time later this week to play with it. I'm currently finding that anything over 7 grams of coffee is wasted. Also, if the pre infusion is set too high sometimes the machine drips a little before the flow of coffee starts.
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Posted Wed Dec 19, 2012, 12:52pm
Subject: Re: Warm up time of Quick Mill Monza
 

Milwaukeecoffee Said:

Someone out there has had to have some experience dialing in the Monza.

Posted December 18, 2012 link

There aren't a whole lot of superauto users here on Coffeegeek.  It's just not the type of machine that people that frequent this forum tend to use.
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Posted Wed Jun 26, 2013, 6:47pm
Subject: Re: Warm up time of Quick Mill Monza
 

I have noticed that the Monza is now outa stock everwhere. Been forever since I've seen one even on eBay.  Is Quick Mill about to discontinue it and/or introduce the 5011 version?
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Posted Thu Jun 27, 2013, 3:27am
Subject: Re: Warm up time of Quick Mill Monza
 

I know very well 05009 Monza.
Does your model has the "heart" button as deca function?
If yes you can boost and stabilize the warm up just brewing a pair of time using the "heart" button, don't forget to put a cup under the spouts, the grinder will not run but the water flowing will push the termoblock to reach quiclky the proper temperature.
If you desire to keep on the machine all day the whole hydraulic components will reach the proper and stabilized temperature in about 15 minutes.
The grinder can achieve very fine ground but don't exasperate it ( just find the proper one depend by the quality and freshness of the coffee beans)or the coffee ground will stuck in the grinder funnel reducing the dose in the coffee chamber or even probably no coffee will out from the spouts.
I found that disable the pre-infusion was better but depend always even by the coffee quality.
Setting up the steam is easy, my personal set up was T.of steam 2, Steam on 1.
My personal opinion is to learn to froth milk without the white plastic pipe.
Water coffee brewing temperature depend by your coffee the machine does not show a temperature value but each mark is about 1,5 Celsius degrees, if i remember as well at lower value are 85 Celsius degrees, note that this is not exactly the water brewing temperature but a component between the termoblock temp. and some fix value to obtain a result in cup.
The coffee chamber temperature i setting up at the fifth mark, if you don't keep on the machine all day i suggest an aggressive set up, in effect this value can improve the result in cup but you can use it if you prefer an higher temperature in cup without modify the water brewing temperature which is more important.
I have to back to my job, but i will try to post some more info.
Have fun with Monza:-)
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