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Posted Mon Jun 24, 2013, 3:03pm
Subject: Re: How do I reduce the temperature of the Racillio Sylvia?
 

(This is all relates to coffee.)

I am glad you found it interesting and it turned out exactly how I thought it would. I had cancer and I will tell you it the most horrible thing a human can go through. Having it it like being reset back to a baby, I was completely immobilised. Everything I knew was taken because of the syrgery I had from this.

Now I read a book "sweet poison" my mind ticked from that day on. I thought Chemotherapy, radiation therapy and surgery will not prevent this horrid disease returning. They will just make me go through what I went through assuming I get cancer. If you have had not had cancer you will not be as concerned aout all this nutrition as I am. Why because you have not been to hell.

Now I read a lot about foods and the health risks of refined foods. I read a lot about the benefits of natural food. I believe now to stand up for what you believe 100%. So I do this!

I realised the way to prevent this disease from raising it's head is to eat the natural food! All the money the medics pour into a cure is a waste as there is no cure! The human body cures itself! With the help of good whole some food. If you go eating Mc Donalds will the body have a simple time fighting of mutated cells?

No!

We need to help ourselfs!

Now another thing, when ever I touch on this with anyone they get defensive. I get remarks like "where are your facts, proof?"
People do not want to believe and they get snide about it. It happened in this very thread.

There was one guy keeping the piece. He said it was insignificant. I do not think so, coffee is the second largest commodity consumed in the world. All the more reason to make it healthy! Unfortunate I experienced much bought coffee that is to hot, the milk is steamed to a ridiculous temp and sugar is added. I can not think of anything more unbalance/ unhealthy.

I have seen a man in hospital sick as sick. His reason, over consumption of coffee. I think that is what he told me.

I hate seeing people die from this and I hate seeing people suffer and I hate seeing them suffer from the therapies westerns provide. Especially when the entire time healthy whole foods are sitting there waiting to be eaten.

The healthy whole foods are the blue prints of medicines.

 
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Posted Mon Jun 24, 2013, 6:03pm
Subject: Re: How do I reduce the temperature of the Racillio Sylvia?
 

Hey bud.. Here is what you do.. Install a pid on your silvia. That should be about $250. When you hit the "go button" you can watch the temperature climb on the digital display until it hits 70 degrees. when it hits 70, Shoot your shot. Taste it. Its gonna taste like warm liquified cat sh1t. But hey.. You know your stuff, no argument here.
I also suggest you contact Rancilio and give them some of your excellent advice on proper brewing techniques. Obviously ,they know nothing in regards to " nutrient loss" . Might as well contact La Spazialle as well because they share the same backward brewing techniques as Rancilio.
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Posted Mon Jun 24, 2013, 6:23pm
Subject: Re: How do I reduce the temperature of the Racillio Sylvia?
 

Thanks for the response!
Like everyone else you have taken offense, what is it? Do you think I am insulting the makers of rancillio Sylvia? Do you think I am insulting there intelligence?

I do not know what they know. They have told me nothing! I did not go to them to find out correct brewing methods, I just paid them for a machine.

Not at all! I do take shots at 70 actually I take it lower. It tastes good!
Sorry for thinking past the guidelines set by Rancillio (not that they ever told me these) and I am grateful for what they have done and provided the public. Do I speak against them and say they no nothing, of course not. You have drawn your own conclusion on my conjecture.

 
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Posted Mon Jun 24, 2013, 6:36pm
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I am over listening to people with high degrees and are higher in the cascade than I. I am tired of this. I would rather people started thinking and learning for themselves rather than swallow what they are told!

I enjoy a coffee extracted from a lower temp water and that is ok. If listened and blindly followed what I was told I would be missing out. Instead I experimented and through trial and error I have found joy in life!

I have been reading about food and learning how things effect it. I have been learning about what I eat! In doing so I have found life so much more enjoyable. This is what life is about. Learn it and enjoy it!

This is fine and there is no shame  in freeing your mind from what people tell you!

 
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Posted Mon Jun 24, 2013, 6:50pm
Subject: Re: How do I reduce the temperature of the Racillio Sylvia?
 

I have not bothered asking this question until now. I knew that it would escalate to this. I think people have cast me into the insolent basket now. If they have not I am grateful. I do not mind tho, it was worth an ask. Thanks for the PID answer I think that is my best chance, changing the thermostat, I do not know how but one guy showed me the 65 degree thermo stat!

Why was that made if the engineers condemned the idea? Maybe some one else is thinking out side the box?

 
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Posted Tue Jun 25, 2013, 1:36am
Subject: Re: How do I reduce the temperature of the Racillio Sylvia?
 

interesting read... strange but interesting...
As weird as it sounds brewing at such a low temperature and producing an espresso to us normally would be way too sour to be considered as tasty coffee... but then, I personally enjoyed food and dishes that other people would consider as gross and yucky... so each to their own...

On another note, my friend's grandmother who recently being diagnosed with cancer and has underwent a few treatment of chemo theraphy, and one thing my friend noticed was her grandmother's taste of food has changed dramatically.... her perception of taste were altered slightly, and food just doesn't have the same flavor as it was before... now for her to enjoy her food (which is a good thing) they had to cook it with extreme taste... extra spicy....


so if you do enjoy your drink at that temperature, then I would really suggest that you either look at getting a PID installed (which will give you exact temp control) or consider other brew method that can provide tastier (to us) brew... maybe French press, aeropress, or even cold brew... try those ones and see how they taste...

good luck with your search....

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On a different note, I read some of the older posts from Ccup and it sounds completely different to how the current Ccup think and types his posts...
if this is a troll, then well played sir... well played....

lol.... low temperature espresso shots indeed....
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Posted Tue Jun 25, 2013, 2:56am
Subject: Re: How do I reduce the temperature of the Racillio Sylvia?
 

Ccup Said:

As far as saving nutrients in water, not much! but there is nutrients in water none the less and these are vital.

Posted June 23, 2013 link

The only nutrients in water are inorganic minerals like sodium, calcium, magnesium, potassium etc., maybe some trace elements. Those won't be removed, reduced or degraded by heating.

 
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Posted Tue Jun 25, 2013, 4:27am
Subject: Re: How do I reduce the temperature of the Racillio Sylvia?
 

Thanks for taking me serious.

Yes it would but for some reason I do not get that sour taste maybe you would but I do not. My entire diet is frowned upon by others.
I enjoy everey bit. It started with my rare steak everyone hated that but I loved and from there on everyone hates my food desicions. Like you said each to there own thank you.

Maybr your friends grandmothers tastes buds were destroyed from chemo so she needs intense taste?

I do my drew regiome of turning the machine of and let it cool naturally.

I am Ccup and my question right up until now has been consistent! I have just enumerated and as I explain more yes it seems by stand changes but I assure it does not. I stand firm! hahaha

As time went on I had to be more detailed to what I said a simple reaction to comments I received.

Thanks for accepting my wish to have a lower temp haha thanks mate take care!

 
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Posted Tue Jun 25, 2013, 4:29am
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Why, were plants growth stunted by being fed boiled water as oposed to natural city water? Why were plants growth stunted from microwave water as opposed to natural water?

If the nutrients are retained like you say?

Heat kills nutrients it is entirely natural for nutrients to die with the heat.
I wrote to my supplier and asked them same question they respected me and told me my question/. inquiry was a first!

I am pioneer!

 
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Posted Tue Jun 25, 2013, 5:45am
Subject: Re: How do I reduce the temperature of the Racillio Sylvia?
 

Ccup Said:

Why, were plants growth stunted by being fed boiled water as oposed to natural city water? Why were plants growth stunted from microwave water as opposed to natural water?

Posted June 25, 2013 link

Where did you get that hair-raising information? I believe this might be the thing for you: click here. If you can't read German, run the Wikipedia article through Google translator.

By the way, back to your initial problem. If you want to regulalte the brewing temperature of your Silvia, you'll have to equip it with a PID.

 
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