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Posted Sat Jun 22, 2013, 11:03pm
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Sorry, but I can't stand this esoteric nonsense.

Our ancestors invented cooking, because it preserves food, makes it safer (by killing otherwise dangerous bacteria and parasites) and makes a lot of edibles easier to digest, sometimes even turning the nutrients accessible for our body in the first place. Raw fruit and vegetables are pretty much indigestible to our intestinal tract, for example, because our body lacks the enzymes required to digest cellulose, which is why we can only take up a fraction of the nutrients. Even though it's true that heat can degrade vitamins, on the whole the advantages of cooking outweigh the harm by far. And you won't get any malnutrition by eating cooked meals. Whoever claims anything else doesn't know basic physiology and food science.

 
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Posted Sat Jun 22, 2013, 11:25pm
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First up it is not esoteric! Second it is not nonsense all tho that statement does come from Modern scientists/ Medical professionals.

Now if you are implementing evolution into this your argument is flawed because evolution is a flawed fairytale. It is true some foods do resist heat better and some foods come up nice once cooked, they retain there nutrients. Some foods on the other hand get desecrated by heat. As for dangerous parasites being in the food we eat, that is complete garbage, I have gone through plenty of raw foods and never felt better! Now please do not get me started on the copious amounts of refined food the westerns eat.

Did you know the less you cook meat the more nutrients it retains, the more you cook it the more it removes! I am not saying you will get less nutrition by eating cooked meals. I cook a lot of my meals! If you wish to digest food better then eat fibre, where is fibre found, whole wheat. To bad most people eat fibre less white bread. Are you going to tell me about phytic acid found in the wheat? I know that one.

I tell you if you wanna get malnutrition eat the western diet!

 
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Posted Sun Jun 23, 2013, 12:32am
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Ccup Said:

As for dangerous parasites being in the food we eat, that is complete garbage, I have gone through plenty of raw foods and never felt better!

Posted June 22, 2013 link

You can get tapeworm by eating raw meat. You can get round worm by eating raw fish. Eggs and fowl can be contaminated by salmonella. Hepatitis A virus, e. coli, listeria, shigellae and campylobacter are usually transmitted by contaminated food. The list goes on...

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Did you know the less you cook meat the more nutrients it retains, the more you cook it the more it removes!

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As far as vitamins are concerned, that much is true. However, not all the vitamins contained in raw fruit and vegetables are accessible to our digestive tract, because of the reason stated above. So by processing food, you might get more nutrients, even though some of them have been degrated by cooking, for example.

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I tell you if you wanna get malnutrition eat the western diet!

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What is a healthy diet? There is much debate about this question, and the answer varies depending on who you ask and when the question has been posed, because ours views on that matter change

Ask a vegetarian, and most will tell you that, apart from ethical considerations, their way of eating is the the healthiest one. However, science has yet to prove, that vegetarians live any longer. So far, studies have only shown that they die fitter.

The so called mediterranean diet is very fashionable at the moment and is supposed to be very healthy. However, a medical study conducted by the University of Heidelberg compared three ways of eating: regular home cooking, mediterranean food, and fast food. They analyzed the concentration of nutrients contained by the different meals as well as their effect on test persons. Three groups were formed and randomized to a diet, which they had to keep up for four weeks, whereupon all groups received the same amount of calories per meal and per day. Their health status was checked before, during and after the study period. The interesting thing is, that food analysis found no difference betweens diets as far as the required daily intake concentration of nutrients was concerned with the only exception of vitamin C in fast food. Neither health status nor weight changed significantly in any study group.

I'm not trying to say that we should live on fast food. But in western society you won't get malnutrition as long as you eat a more or even less balanced diet. As far as overweight is concerned, what really counts is how much you eat and not what you eat. The problem with fast food is that it's energy density is very high, i.e. a small serving already contains lots of calories, so that we tend to eat too much of it in order to feel full.

 
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Posted Sun Jun 23, 2013, 1:01am
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Yes you can get parasites from rancid meat. I eat the raw meat and I have no gut worms. If it is fresh it is clean.
I eat the raw fish but fresh again if it is old yes you will get parasite or sick. You can eat raw eggs fine as long as it is fresh.  All those infections you listed can and are prevented by eating fruits, whole Wheats and the list goes on.

Thanks for confirming about the vitamins remaining in the raw meats. Maybe The body does have a hard time getting nutrients out of the food or maybe it does not. Science suggests it may but it not hard fact. Some foods you can cook to very high temperatures, coconut oil for example thus I only use that oil for cooking, in fact I eat a lot more coconut now and modern scientists are beginning to accept coconut is medicinal!

A healthy diet! Is the food that hangs on a tree and grows from the ground! Or the water that falls from the sky.
That is healthy and I will share with you my soul conviction.

I believe in Jehovah, I believe he made us and I believe he made the food for us, to keep us well. That is the food from a garden. I believe that food is infallible.

Now there are bad foods which are refined. White sugar, White wheat and hydrogenated oils. Take note, the heat does that to the oil.

All tho vegetarians eat No meat they still eat refined food! This is bad and I have seen them get infections, cold etc.
Same for Vegans. They deprive themselves of natural healthy foods.

Mediterranean diet sounds good but again it depends what they eat. If there chowing down white bread or white rice. Not so good. I thnk it is good tho because I think Mediterranean eat ancient grains. Now I just do not know there diet so I should not comment about it. I have a Mediterranean recipe book, the foods are naturals.

I can speak for myself tho. Ever since I quit all refined foods I feel better. I have lost 10 to 15 kilos, my brain thinks better, my emotions are balance,I do not even get head aches, I do not get saw anything I just feel fine!
I can play guitar better, I can draw better and I will brutally honest I poo better!

I have been reading a lot about foods and the benefits. I read a lot about refined foods. It all points some where. I find that bad food points to a sick people and good food points to a healthy people.

I do not have a science degrees, I have no proof.

I watched some testimonies on youtube about how natural foods cured these sick people. One lady telling her story stuck out big time. She was saying her husband had terminal cancer or something and she got him onto natural foods. The doctor said I do not know what you are doing and I do not want to know. Fancy that he did not want to know!

The nurses were keen to find out but the Doc said stay away!

Why would he say that? I say it is money, arrogance and pride. People do not want to know.

Oh one last story I had knits and freaked. I had dreads. I shaved my head and went straight to the pharmacist who sold me clinically proven formula to removed the knits. It suffocated them and disable there respiratory system. It did not work.

So I read on LIVESTRONG that Lavender oil can do it.
Yep $10 Lavender oil removed the bug!

You do not need a degree to see the obvious.

 
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Posted Sun Jun 23, 2013, 1:27am
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Anyway back to the start, the less hot water makes the coffee shot taste nicer! I do not have a science degree for this I just know it by taste.

 
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Posted Sun Jun 23, 2013, 7:08am
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Surely you are looking at this the wrong way. Cold brew coffee has to be the way for you to go and ditch the espresso machine.
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Posted Sun Jun 23, 2013, 5:57pm
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In correct, water can with stand a certain temperature and that temperature helps the coffee bean to! This hitting that sweet temp is perfect and makes a beautiful shot of coffee.

The sylvia gets to hot I can temp surf it tho by turning it off.

 
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Posted Sun Jun 23, 2013, 6:19pm
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Ccup Said:

Are you mocking me mate! Here is an idea go grab the popcorn and educate yourself on nutrients! Also here is another little thing you can do. Go burn the crap out of your water and compare it to natural spring water found on a mountain! Ignorant prick.

my brain thinks better, my emotions are balance.

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This is interesting. :)

Maybe you should lay off coffee all together.
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Posted Sun Jun 23, 2013, 7:24pm
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Why would I cease drinking this sublime drink?

 
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Posted Sun Jun 23, 2013, 7:43pm
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Ccup Said:

Why would I cease drinking this sublime drink?

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I cant think of any reason. :)

Curious though.. What magical nutrients are you saving by reducing water temp . And how much espresso do you plan on drinking daily to make any difference healthwise.
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