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meteorainc
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Posted Tue Jun 11, 2013, 10:38pm
Subject: Conti CC100 (2G) vs Astoria Practric (2G)
 

Planning on opening a cofee shop sometime down the road. I have an apartment building which I'm converting the 1st floor into a coffee shop.

I've chosen the two models based on the servicing available.

Since I'm located in Thailand, the drinks served will most likely be 70-80% cold drink varities based on milk.
Forecast of around 150-200 cups per day during the initial months of opening, 2 group might be overkill but if business picks up I think 1 group will be too slow. Most of the small coffee shops here like to buy 2 small 1 Group machines in order to save cost.

Machines choices are Conti CC100 (2G) vs Astoria Practic (2G)

Grinder Compak K6 Pro vs Mazzer Lux

Any help would be much appreciated, thank you!
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Posted Wed Jun 12, 2013, 7:10am
Subject: Re: Conti CC100 (2G) vs Astoria Practric (2G)
 

Go with the one that has the BEST servicing available, the one that the vendor treats you best. There is little difference in quality with commercial machines and a business depends on service and the ability to get your problem fixed YESTERDAY.

 
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Posted Wed Jun 12, 2013, 6:03pm
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Wayne is giving you great advice here.  I had a coffee shop many years ago and the machine we chose was based on the best service contract/support we could find at the time.  It happened to be an Astoria and worked well for us but...  There are many choices today and a working machine is your constant. As for the number of groups, two rather than one would be my choice. Customers often don't come in one at a time.  You want to be able to handle a rush and keep your customers happy and returning often. Guess it is all about good service isn't it?  Good luck with your venture.
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Posted Wed Jun 12, 2013, 7:26pm
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goodluck on your new venture. and the advises are great. as a coffee customer, i would not want to wait that long so 2 groups would be great. and of course, a working machine is always best :).

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Posted Wed Jun 12, 2013, 10:44pm
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Thanks for the advice, seems like not much difference among commerical machines in the same price group. I'll have to talk to distributors some more to see about their servicing. I guess i'll be sticking around here in the months to come!
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Posted Thu Jun 13, 2013, 11:13am
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If you have a 2 grp unit, and it goes down, you have no espresso. If you have a 2 grp and a single, then you can use the single for the slow times and the dual for when its busy. You will always have the backup no matter what.
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Posted Thu Jun 13, 2013, 10:30pm
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Steamer thanks for the advice, I will keep it in mind.
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