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Posted Sun Jun 9, 2013, 10:44am
Subject: Buying advice -  Bezzera BZ07
 

One of these for sale in the local Craigs List -

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/ele/3857859045.html

As you can see it includes a bottomless PF ,an assortment of baskets, 20oz pitcher, SS tamper, and some cleaning supplies.

Current new price for a BZ07is $1300.00 CDN (not including bottomless PF, tamper, pitcher, extra baskets,etc.)

I have a copy of the invoice confirming a purchase date of Oct 2011, and my only concerns are that he did not keep the owners manual, although from what I understand and have read it might not have been worth keeping, and no box.

Is $950.00 a fair price for this setup?  

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Posted Sun Jun 9, 2013, 1:29pm
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The lack of the box and the book don't bother me.  But the price does.  I would want to pay closer to 750 rather than 950.  You can expect the extras to cost 100 new.

I would consider paying that much if it had the grinder and the insides looked like new.  But only you can decide if it is worth it to you.

 
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Posted Sun Jun 9, 2013, 7:46pm
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Ya, my first gut feeling was also "too high", but what the heck do I know!  I'm still a newby to all this coffee 'stuff'.
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Posted Sun Jun 9, 2013, 8:20pm
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Not alot of desirable machines come up locally, it's like a wasteland here, so I wouldn't say it's particularly overpriced.  It does look like the owner is in for about $1500 for the package.  Bezzera's a pretty nice machine, heat exchanger with hot water spout.  Now whether you can get your back $950 out of it if you need to sell.....maybe not but still not a bad investment.  NS Oscars do tend to be more in demand around here.

There's a Quickmill Alexia for sale too, perhaps newer but no HX and more expensive.  The asking price of $1200 is alittle optimistic and too close to getting a brand spankin' new HX machine.

On a side note, out of the blue, #2 daughter just posed a cheeky question about my new Compak K6 grinder that's 25" tall - "Dad, when you gettin' a new hopper?!?!?"  lol
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Posted Mon Jun 10, 2013, 7:08am
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I paid 900 USD with shipping to get my BZ07 in similar condition, and without the bottomless.  If you can talk him down to that price with the extras, then I'd say go for it, particularly with the lack of alternatives.  Being able to see before you buy is worth something.

The manual is pretty useless, and freely available online if you feel you must read it.
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Posted Mon Jun 10, 2013, 7:34pm
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Coffeenoobie Said:

The lack of the box and the book don't bother me.  But the price does.  I would want to pay closer to 750 rather than 950.  You can expect the extras to cost 100 new.

I would consider paying that much if it had the grinder and the insides looked like new.  But only you can decide if it is worth it to you.

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In the US maybe, but this here is Canada.  For whatever reason, uses espresso machines seem to command a premium over what you see in the US.

That is a good price if it is in good condition.
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Posted Mon Jun 10, 2013, 7:58pm
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Less than two years old with all the extras? Check it over good, but sounds like a good deal to me.
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Posted Mon Jun 10, 2013, 8:34pm
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Ya, used machines rarely come up for sale around this neck of the woods, CL or otherwise.  The few that I have seen seem to be at rather premium prices - a PIDed 13 year old Silvia for $590, that Alexia for $1200...

CoffeeRon - when you say 'check it over good', is there anything specific I should be checking for?  any common issues on a machine like this?  

The fact that he is including cleaners tells me he probably keeps it fairly clean.  I guess as long as it pulls a decent shot I shoud be OK.  And of course I will check the obvious - make sure it blows steam, and pumps hot water.  Anything else?
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Posted Mon Jun 10, 2013, 10:03pm
Subject: Re: Buying advice -  Bezzera BZ07
 

Pretty much what you said- if everythings working and it hasn't been dropped or anything obvious like that you should be good. May be due for a new grouphead gasket or something like that but that type of thing is just routine nothing to quibble over. Leaking steam valves or such might be cause for a bit lower offer.
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Posted Sun Jun 23, 2013, 10:13am
Subject: Re: Buying advice -  Bezzera BZ07
 

Update - just an FYI, after much humming and hawing I ended up not buying the BZ07.  I had sat back hoping that if it didn't sell the price might come down, and then the wife stepped in and said " buy new young man!" (she has this thing for new stuff!) so I did!

But not a BZ07, a Silvia!  The last few days have been very interesting.  Definitely a learning curve here, but then again, that's half the fun!  Right?

My thanks go out once again to everyone, for their advice and their patience.

Cheers!
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