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faster
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Location: France
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Espresso: Rancillio Silvia-PID
Grinder: Rossi RR45
Roaster: Homemade drum roaster
Posted Thu Jun 6, 2013, 9:20am
Subject: Buy Rancillio Silvia and Rossi RR45 grinder?
 

I found Rancillio Silvia V3, 18 months old, (has bill of sale), still in warranty, well maintained, that comes with a Rossi RR45 grinder, that has been modified , it is doserless now, and doesn't have the hopper, got lost,  you have to put the cafe in the hole by handful.
The lot for 350 euros...(roughly $460 for both).

What do you Rancillio Silvia experts say? Go for it? I need your advice!

18 month old Silvia...should be perfect? Anything to check?...

I googled the RR45 and it is big, smaller without the hopper. He says it's in good condition, he bought it from a restaurant owner friend (business went under) so obviously it was used in a cafe.
Does anybody know the grinder, as far as replacement of burrs, maintenance, how do I test it?? I am going to pick it up in person..

I don't worry too much about the Rancillio, just that grinder size and condition....

If I get it, I can imagine this huge industrial grinder sitting next to the Silvia, and grinding my 5-10 doses per day...Overkill, no?

Please advise, should give decision tonight... TIA
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Burner0000
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Location: Cambridge, Ontario Canada
Expertise: Professional

Espresso: Rancilio Silvia, VFA Expres...
Grinder: Macap MX/VFA N1464/Kyocera...
Drip: Manual Drip, French Press
Roaster: Behmor 1600 / Sonofresco
Posted Thu Jun 6, 2013, 10:47am
Subject: Re: Buy Rancillio Silvia and Rossi RR45 grinder?
 

Go for it!  I payed the same for just my Silvia!  Also a commercial grade grinder like that one isn't cheap. They start at $500 and go way up!  The Silvia  only being 18 months old should be in great shape.  The grinder burrs are cheap and easy to replace.  Grinder cleaning would only require a brush and a vacuum. :p  No such thing as overkill and commercial grinders last forever!


UPDATE:  that exact grinder goes for $700 new.

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faster
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Joined: 27 May 2013
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Location: France
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Espresso: Rancillio Silvia-PID
Grinder: Rossi RR45
Roaster: Homemade drum roaster
Posted Thu Jun 6, 2013, 11:31am
Subject: Re: Buy Rancillio Silvia and Rossi RR45 grinder?
 

Thank you for the thumbs up.
I think it is a great deal, they are not cheap here, I found it on a P2P site equivalent to your Craigslist.
The man said he maintained the machine well and there are still 6 months of warranty left, if anything goes wrong I think I can still use his warranty...
I'm excited, finally finding a great machine.
cheers and thanks for help
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Burner0000
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Espresso: Rancilio Silvia, VFA Expres...
Grinder: Macap MX/VFA N1464/Kyocera...
Drip: Manual Drip, French Press
Roaster: Behmor 1600 / Sonofresco
Posted Thu Jun 6, 2013, 11:44am
Subject: Re: Buy Rancillio Silvia and Rossi RR45 grinder?
 

No problem.  If you run into problems after the warranty is up it's not hard to fix.

We have a ton of parts suppliers on this side of the world.  

If you decide to buy and you find small amounts of rust on the body (black) of the machine don't panic.  This is common for any espresso machine including commercial ones.  A bit of sand paper and rust paint fixes it right up. As long as you take care of the machine it will last a long time. All of the parts are commercial parts

Enjoy the Silvia!  Feel free to drop a line of you have any issues.
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Posted Thu Jun 6, 2013, 2:24pm
Subject: Re: Buy Rancillio Silvia and Rossi RR45 grinder?
 

faster Said:

If I get it, I can imagine this huge industrial grinder sitting next to the Silvia, and grinding my 5-10 doses per day...Overkill, no?

Posted June 6, 2013 link

There's no such thing.  Keep in mind: the grinder matters more.  I have Super Jolly that I use with my Silvia.
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johnboddie
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Espresso: MCAL, Brasilia Mini Classic,...
Grinder: Rossi RR45a,Rocky,...
Drip: Cuisinart (non-grinding)
Roaster: Behmor 1600
Posted Thu Jun 6, 2013, 4:43pm
Subject: Re: Buy Rancillio Silvia and Rossi RR45 grinder?
 

You should get a set of replacement burrs for the grinder, and do so quickly. If the grinder was used in a cafe, you probably have more wear than you'd see on a home unit.

The company that makes the Rossi grinders is no longer in business. This shouldn't be much of a problem in a practical sense since the RR45 is built like a tank and it should be able to serve your needs over many years and multiple espresso machine upgrades.

I use an RR45a next to my MCAL and have been very happy with it.
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faster
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Espresso: Rancillio Silvia-PID
Grinder: Rossi RR45
Roaster: Homemade drum roaster
Posted Sat Jun 8, 2013, 2:51pm
Subject: Re: Buy Rancillio Silvia and Rossi RR45 grinder?
 

Hey guys, wish me luck,

going to pick them up tomorrow, (Rancillio Silvia and Rossi RR45 grinder), I hope everything is OK, because it's 200 kms from here...

Anything to watch for on the Silvia?, it is still in warranty (6 months) and he said he took care, cleaned and descaled etc....

Have a good weekend:-)

Thanx burner0000, nice picture:-) is that an RR45 next to Silvia?
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Burner0000
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Location: Cambridge, Ontario Canada
Expertise: Professional

Espresso: Rancilio Silvia, VFA Expres...
Grinder: Macap MX/VFA N1464/Kyocera...
Drip: Manual Drip, French Press
Roaster: Behmor 1600 / Sonofresco
Posted Tue Jun 11, 2013, 7:48am
Subject: Re: Buy Rancillio Silvia and Rossi RR45 grinder?
 

No it's a Macap MX.  Not much different though :p

What to watch out for.
- Keep the drip tray empty.  It's smaller so it fills up quick.  
- Keep under the drip tray dry. It can rust overtime.  If it does it's an easy fix.
- Always wipe the  steam and after steaming.  The Silvia has a lot of power and heat so it cakes on fast.

Enjoy!
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