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faster
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Posted Fri May 31, 2013, 6:22am
Subject: buying used Gaggia Classic help
 

Hi, I am about to buy a second hand Gaggia Classic about 2-3 years old.

Is there any risk in buying such quality machine second hand?  Presuming under normal wear and tear condition.

I know it is a very general question, but assuming people took care of it  (reasonably), 3 years...is it going to last without starting to have replace parts?

What starts to go bad with them after a while? Anything to watch for?

Thanks for any insights
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Posted Fri May 31, 2013, 7:49am
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There are a lot of possibilities, both good and bad. Probably the biggest factor is how well the previous owner cleaned, descaled and maintained it. Also, how much you're paying for it used. I'm somewhat of a neophyte myself in the espresso scene. Before I bought a used Classic a year ago, I had only had a Krups Gusto--pump driven, but very cheap. I got my Classic for $80 on Craigslist. It had been in storage for 8 yrs. It had probably never been descaled or backflushed. After a few months I started having some problems and read as much as possible online, and learned to disassemble it piece by piece and clean and descale everything. If you have a little mechanical aptitude it is not hard to do. I've replaced the pump and the t-stats. Given that the Classic is between $300-400 new, and can make great coffee, I feel like I got a good deal. Your machine is much "younger" than mine. There are parts like the brew gasket and certain o-rings that wear out and normally have to be replaced. Most fixes aren't too difficult and there is a lot of info and many knowledgeable people around to help. I'm just being realistic and honest, I hope I'm not painting a negative picture of this machine, but you should go into it with your eyes open, as it appears you are doing.
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Posted Fri May 31, 2013, 8:06am
Subject: Re: buying used Gaggia Classic help
 

I bought my used gaggia classic on ebay back in december for about $200, which i consider well worth it (I got it from another espresso person, so they took decent care of it. Something to consider when opting for craigslist or from completely unknown sources). Getting a quality machine at a low price meant that I could open her up and mod without much worry.

Saving money over buying new, you should install a PID (make it yourself to really save, I have one that also controls steam and intrashot) and this really takes away most worries. Like mentioned above, descaling is a must before you attempt anything with it. As far as fixes mentioned with the brew gasket and orings, I wouldn't think you'd need to worry if its only 2-3 years old. The one I bought was a 2007 edition and I didn't have any problems with those parts but it's a good idea to be aware of them.

I am one that personally loves this machine after the mods and it competes with machines well over its price (i'm looking at you, miss silvia).
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Posted Thu Jun 6, 2013, 12:32am
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brianl Said:

I bought my used gaggia classic on ebay back in december for about $200, which i consider well worth it (I got it from another espresso person, so they took decent care of it. Something to consider when opting for craigslist or from completely unknown sources). Getting a quality machine at a low price meant that I could open her up and mod without much worry.

Saving money over buying new, you should install a PID (make it yourself to really save, I have one that also controls steam and intrashot) and this really takes away most worries. Like mentioned above, descaling is a must before you attempt anything with it. As far as fixes mentioned with the brew gasket and orings, I wouldn't think you'd need to worry if its only 2-3 years old. The one I bought was a 2007 edition and I didn't have any problems with those parts but it's a good idea to be aware of them.

I am one that personally loves this machine after the mods and it competes with machines well over its price (i'm looking at you, miss silvia).

Posted May 31, 2013 link

That's exactly what I want to do, however, I live in France and they are impossible to find second hand here, so I am looking in UK, and probably will get one there...
Did you install the PID? Does the performance justify the cost?
I never steam, actually I wish there was a G-Classic without the steamer...

Thank you all for input, cheers
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Posted Thu Jun 6, 2013, 6:24am
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You might check Amazon Warehouse Deals from time to time. These are returned machines that may not have even ever been used and you can get a discount of up to 25% off the machine. It's like buying used but you know the machine has been well taken care. Amazon also applies the same return policy to its new products as its used ones as well.
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Posted Thu Jun 6, 2013, 6:42am
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I installed my own PID. I opted to do it without the kits (as those are fairly expensive considering what you get). The kits just crimp some wires for you and provide the parts (at a marked up price obv). You can find the pdf instructions on this forum somewhere, or at least the mods forum.

The increased benefit is way worth the ~90 bucks I spent for the features i mentioned. Otherwise, the Gaggia has a 15-30 temperature swing and i find temp serfing to be a bore. I didn't mind it at first but i've moved on.

It's good to have the steam. I never use it but my significant other likes milk drinks and basically anyone who visits.
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