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Posted Mon May 27, 2013, 6:27pm
Subject: a little Starbucks Barista help, please
 

I picked up a ten year old SB Barista, model SIN 006, the other day from GW. It came on at the store when I plugged it in (sounded like the pump came on). Got home with it and let it sit a couple of days, then when I went to fire it up, it set off the electrical breaker switch in the house. Tried a couple of different ones in the house and in the garage. Always sets the breaker off.

I took the top metal plate off and looked inside. It looks pretty good in there. No evidence of water leakage, etc., and pretty clean. Doesn't look like anyone's been inside of it. The only thing I saw was a loose ground screw to the metal body (at least I think it is the ground). I tightened it up, but didn't help. That's about the extent of my knowledge base.
Anyone have any suggestions on what I need to look at and get this to where it won't kick off the breaker and get it running?

Also, I dl'd the parts manual (in Italian). I can't read it. Can't find a complete owner's manual online. Anyone know where I can find one. I'm not planning on putting a lot on money into this little project.

Thx, for any and all help/suggestions.

 
Frank, "Still the one"
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Posted Mon May 27, 2013, 6:47pm
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The short circuit is most likely to be a broken/flooded heating element, if you don't see any water damage evidence on the electrical parts outside of the boiler.  You can test it with an ohm-meter, pull each connections off of the two element leads, set the ohm-meter to a 200 ohm range and measure from one side of the element to the other. Anything from 10 to 16 or so is reasonable. Then, set the ohmeter to the highest range it has, 200million ohms, or whatever, and meaure from one lead to the boiler-body.  If the resistance is anything less than infinity, your element has cracked, gotten wet inside and is shorting out through the boiler water to body-ground.
If the element isn't the short circuit, reconnect it and then test other connections for a short to ground.
If it is as simple as a burnt wire, fix it.  I would advise against sinking too much money into it.
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Posted Mon May 27, 2013, 11:11pm
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Thx, SStones, As soon as I can find/borrow an ohm meter, I will test for that. Don't know when that will be, though. Just in case, I have looked at a couple of online Barista parts places for a boiler, but haven't found one, yet. Would you know the "approximate" cost of a boiler? And, as you suggested, I do not plan on spending too much money on this repair/project. I am not placing too much hope on finding one (if needed) cheap enough to buy it.

 
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Posted Tue May 28, 2013, 4:08am
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Heating Element
In my opinion it costs more than half of what that machine at that age is worth.
I don't want to make your mind up for you, but you could be better off buying a used one from Sharky, there, or buying a working one locally. Then you've got a parts machine to keep your working one healthy.
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