eieio Senior Member Joined: 17 Apr 2013 Posts: 31 Location: New York Expertise: I love coffee
Posted Sun May 12, 2013, 6:18pm Subject: Quick Mill Silvano & Baratza Vario (not Vario W)
Thanks for all the valuable suggestions.
I plan to buy: the Quick Mill Silvano and the Baratza Vario (not the Vario W), in order to allow myself to dial in more precisely the grinds. I am guessing that it is a very significant variable and that it is well worth the upgrade to the Vario. I particularly like the fact that the Vario (and most Baratzas in general), are super great at extremely low grind retention. I abhor grind retention as I'm a one-person, 1-2 Americano per day drinker, so if the grind retention is poor (i.e. the Capresso conical burr grinder - i had roughly 1 tablespoon of grind retention in the burr chamber!), it would make a huge difference to me.
i have no espresso accessories at all! no tamper, no tamping mat, no tamp holder, nothing whatsoever.
may i ask what tamper, what tamping mat, what tamp holder (if it is recommended to have one), and other items i ought to order? i intend to place this order asap Monday morning (tomorrow).
how is the Cafelat brand? are their Ribbed Silicone tampers good? how about their other accessories like their tamping mat, their tamp holders, etc?
Coffeenoobie Senior Member Joined: 11 Dec 2011 Posts: 3,057 Location: PNW Expertise: I like coffee
Espresso: N S Oscar Grinder: K30 & Vario W
Posted Sun May 12, 2013, 7:17pm Subject: Re: Jura Super Automatic to Semi-Auto Quick Mill Silvano?
Personally, I think you might regret spending the few extra bucks to get the W. I don't use the bucket it comes with I use 2 yogurt cups. One whole to catch the grinds and one cut to be a funnel. Less mess, less trouble than it sounds to say it.
This is what I did to grind directly into the basket. What you see: cut yogurt cup Basket small metal cup 3m command strip tape
I would still be doing this if I had ridgeless baskets. Now, I just put the whole yogurt cup into the metal cup and grind into it, stir to fluff the grinds and pour into the basket with the cut cup on top acting as a funnel. Then I remove the funnel and tamp.
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Buying advice: GRINDER GRINDER GRINDER. Don't cheap out on the grinder.
The thing about espresso is, there are plenty of toys to go with it. Some are useful, some, IMO are just toys. You need a tamper, the role of tamping is overplayed, and some do not tamp, but its still good to have one. The way you tamp is subjective to your technique, which is a personal choice, and sometimes dictated by your machine. Similarly, your tamper choice is highly subjective. Most any will do the job, you need to decide on one that fits your aesthetic, and go from there. If you like, there are some custom makers out there. You also need a knockbox, while you could get on without it, the mess youd make is worth $30. You will probably want a .1 gram scale, since it makes dialing in and calibrating much easier. You may want something to tamp on, like a mat, to protect your portafilter and the surfaces under it, but that is your choice and is a completely unnecessary piece. Beyond that, any accessory is up to you. Buy as much or as little as you like, but the outcome will not be impacted at all.
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