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eieio
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Posted Thu May 9, 2013, 9:38pm
Subject: Home Machine with rear height limitation: Silvano Quick Mill, La Spaziale S1 or?
 

Dear All:

After an unsuccessful attempt in going for a Super Automatic, I'm now going to go for a well-made, solid home espresso machine.

I only drink one or two Americano per day (roughly 12 ounces each Americano), with a touch of half and half.  I've never had frothed milk at home so I don't know whether or not if given the opportunity, I'd change my favored half and half to frothed milk.

My counter is such that there is roughly 11" of depth without height limitation, before there is a ~17" height limitation.   There is sufficient depth for any machine but the true limitation is the ~17" height limitation starting from roughly 11" from the front of the counter.

This has serious consequences when selecting a machine:

-  the Andreja Quick Mill has a rear water tank (as most do) and it requires easily 20" or more height to get the water tank out!

-  when looking for a front loading water tank or side loading water tank, or, alternatively, a less deep machine overall, there are very few options.

While the Quick Mill Andreja has extremely high reliability ratings and is well loved, the rear water tank plus its weight of 50 pounds makes it highly inconvenient to move around every couple of days to put fresh water in and rinse out the water tank.

My current top choices include:  Quick Mill Silvano (side water tank) and the La Spaciale S1 (front water tank!)

May I ask for advice and suggestions please?    The key parameters I'm looking for are:  reliability, few maintenance issues, joy of use, and, of course, high quality of the ultimate product - the espressi produced.

Thanks in advance.
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Fred1
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Joined: 3 Sep 2004
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Location: Seattle
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Espresso: LaSpaziale S1 Mini Vivaldi...
Grinder: Mazzer Mini/NS MCF
Vac Pot: None
Drip: Chemex
Roaster: Hottop, FR+8
Posted Fri May 10, 2013, 4:57am
Subject: Re: Home Machine
 

Either machine will meet your needs.  The Mini Vivaldi costs twice as much as the Silvano.  Only you can decide how much you want to spend.  Regardless of which machine you buy, you will need a real espresso grinder.  The Virtuoso will work for a low end machine with a pressurized portafilter, but, not with a real espresso machine.  If cost is your main consideration, go with the Silvano.

Fred
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MatP
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Location: Southern California
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Espresso: Gaggia Classic
Grinder: Macap MXP
Roaster: Behmor 1600
Posted Fri May 10, 2013, 8:42am
Subject: Re: Home Machine with rear height limitation: ...
 

eieio Said:

May I ask for advice and suggestions please?    The key parameters I'm looking for are:  reliability, few maintenance issues, joy of use, and, of course, high quality of the ultimate product - the espressi produced.

Posted May 9, 2013 link

Hello!

After reading your post, I am wondering if you will not regret spending a lot of money having the dimension concerns in mind. For only one drink a day, with or without frothed milk, I would consider some other much cheaper/smaller machines, but still reliable and producing good coffee (if you have a good grinder!). For example the Gaggia Classic or the Silvia. Both reliable, easy to maintain, easy to move around if you want to fill the tank, can by upgraded with a PID. They are also easy to sell if one day you want to upgrade/have more room. With a good grinder, and one of those machines, you would be able to make great shots.

Hope you find the machine that best fits your needs!

MatP
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SSgt93
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Joined: 7 Apr 2013
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Espresso: La Spaziale Mini Vivaldi II
Grinder: Baratza Vario
Posted Sun May 12, 2013, 9:04pm
Subject: Mini Vivaldi II
 

I researched and researched and decided on the Mini Vivaldi II (should be shipping any day).  It's a great machine and has a loyal following.  If you need more info, check out the S1 forums for specifics.
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occoffeefan
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Location: Orange County, CA
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Espresso: Breville Dual Boiler
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Posted Sun May 12, 2013, 9:16pm
Subject: Re: Home Machine with rear height limitation
 

the Breville Dual Boiler is 15 inches high (without the top front water refill lid opened which adds 1 inch) and rolls on the counter then locks in place where you want it. This makes it very convienent, you do not have to get to the rear of the machine to refill your water and the machine rolls anywhere on your counter.  It is not a bulletproof Italian machine but is quite easy to use and popular.
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