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BeerCan
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Posted Tue May 7, 2013, 5:24pm
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OK took another look at this machine today while I was picking up the Astra.  It was very clean and very original.  No replaced parts, but descaled and (acid cleaned?)
I told him I was going to pass.
Nothing good on CL in my area :(
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Posted Wed May 8, 2013, 3:30am
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BeerCan Said:

OK took another look at this machine today while I was picking up the Astra.  It was very clean and very original.  No replaced parts, but descaled and (acid cleaned?)
I told him I was going to pass.
Nothing good on CL in my area :(

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Good move, original condition is great for antiques and classic cars....for espresso machines more than 5 years old....not so good. If it was a cheaper private sale, then I would say go for it.

Just to help you think about this...if I was selling my Duetto (I have thought about it briefly as I have 3 dual boiler machines, and I am using my QM now. I would be asking a similar price (perhaps slightly more) and it's a much better machine than the Tea. However, I'm not selling it, just thought about it.
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Posted Wed May 8, 2013, 2:48pm
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DavecUK Said:

Yeah that sounds like what we would term "a load of bull"....the sort of you can trust us comment, rather than the specific list of things they to a machine when they refurb it.....which is the minimum you should expect. It sounds like you shouldn't bother with that vendor, most businesses that do things properly are proud to say so and shout it from the rooftops....a mumbled "we went through it"....doesn't do it for me. Also a 90 day labour only warranty doesn't really say much for their refurb does it/ You are paying top money, you expect an excellent job!

Look elsewhere...or buy one cheaper and refurb it yourself, because you will probably do a better job than that vendor will.

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Many US dealers will only offer a 90 day or 6 month warranty on refurbs. This is very common in the USA.

 
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Posted Wed May 8, 2013, 7:55pm
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1stline Said:

Many US dealers will only offer a 90 day or 6 month warranty on refurbs. This is very common in the USA.

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I am aware of this, but the OP said a 90 labour only warranty.... I don't think that's standing behind their refurb in my books and I think a 6 month parts/labour warranty Is more what I personally would expect. Certainly we have a better situation within the UK. In a sense the market in any country is consumer driven, so all the warranty stuff is ultimately decided by the consumer and retailers step up to meet consumer demand. The issue is one of consumer expectation and education, because without some knowledge the consumer finds it hard to make good choices. Hopefully now the other person understands what they should expect from a refurb of a machine over 5 years old (as opposed to a used non refurbed machine), or a machine up to 2 years old.. As for warranty, again they can make a choice. In this case the OP didn't state how old the machine was, so I covered all the bases.


I am guessing, you are NOT the retailer in question, but if you are, you can take my comments as positive statement of what I believe any retailer should be doing/stating when they refurbish a machine of any real age and sell as refurbished. Then it's easy to give a parts and labour warranty, because they know it's going to be right..
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Posted Fri May 10, 2013, 1:23pm
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So let me ask this.  What is the general consensus on the Astra machines? http://www.astramfr.com/gourmet.html  I don't see a lot posted about them and I am wondering why.  $ to $ and lb to lb do the stack up to the other more popular brands?  I have a line on a factory refurb gourmet pro for 1750.
I also decided to up my budget and get a grinder looking at Click Here (www.wholelattelove.com)  but I guess that is a discussion for another thread.
So 3k total for grinder and machine.
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