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cappuccinoboy
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Location: MILANO
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Posted Wed May 1, 2013, 9:30am
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Ameliej Said:

Hello,

Before anything, I'm not the one looking to buy a SA. My father came to me to get advices for a purchase, but i'm at lost, 'cause I own a manual machine...i surely tried to discourage him from buying a sa, but did not succeed...a manual machine is not an option. Anything that ask to use a portafilter or froth milk is over the effort he want to out in getting a good coffee....

I browsed the forum to get buying advices in this particular category, but nothing useful came up...

He wants...
A super-automatic...no grinder included (?)
Plumbed ( again, dont't ask...)
Low maintenance
Budget is not an object

And hoping to get coffee as good as with my lelit PL4TEM/PL053 grinder...

Anybody has a recommendation for me except discouraging him in his shopping or suggesting a pod machine since either SA and pod machine don't offer quality coffee...

Posted April 28, 2013 link

Melanie, if your father wants a superauto espresso machine you should have him buy a QuickMill Monza de luxe:
Pros:
Probably the most beautifull,
Decent grinder,
heated metal group,
very reliable and low maintenance<.
Negatives:
Always out of stock ,in spite of having a master distributor,
Lousy quality of espresso in cup,  shown in video by ChrisCoffee; in YOUTUBE video by Carlito coffee shows MUCH better quality espresso...
I am not saying that it would be best absolute buy by father, but if that is what he wants just let it be, I just personally guarantee that Monza can easily match quality of your Lelit (if handled correctly...)
Ciao, Pietro
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rettaps
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Posted Thu May 2, 2013, 10:34am
Subject: Re: Super-automatic machine (buying advice)
 

cappuccinoboy Said:

Melanie, if your father wants a superauto espresso machine you should have him buy a QuickMill Monza de luxe:
Pros:
Probably the most beautifull, (YES)
Decent grinder,      (NO
heated metal group,   (TASTES BURNT)
very reliable and low maintenance<. (HAD QUITE A FEW ISSUES WITH IT)
Negatives:
Always out of stock ,in spite of having a master distributor, (GOOD DISTRIBUTOR)
Lousy quality of espresso in cup,  shown in video by ChrisCoffee; in YOUTUBE video by Carlito coffee shows MUCH better quality espresso...
I am not saying that it would be best absolute buy by father, but if that is what he wants just let it be, I just personally guarantee that Monza can easily match quality of your Lelit (if handled correctly...)   (I WOULDN'T BUY)
Ciao, Pietro

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Ristrettolover
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Location: Queensland, Australia
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Posted Fri May 3, 2013, 6:33am
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Not sure if anyone had suggested it already, but just buy a pod machine. My parents bought one a couple of years ago (I am now seeking to rectify that by hopefully purchasing a Bezzera Unica and Baratza Vario). Ours is a Nespresso machine, requires little maintenance (running steam through the milk container or washing out the jug depending on the model, and flushing through a descaler whenever the machine tells you). Apparently you can even buy reusable capsules if there's particular blends your dad likes, which if he just got something like a Baratza Virtuoso he could easily grind it in. Obviously pod espresso is pretty terrible, but if he wants a super auto, quality presumably isn't number 1 priority. Just my thoughts.

Edit: I'm not sure if you can get any plumbed though.
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MerleApAmber
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Joined: 13 Nov 2012
Posts: 203
Location: Atlanta
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Breville BES900
Grinder: Baratza Preciso + Esatto
Vac Pot: Yuma
Drip: bah-humbug
Roaster: Hot Top 2K P
Posted Fri May 3, 2013, 12:42pm
Subject: Re: Super-automatic machine (buying advice)
 

Tassimo worked(s) rather well, when considerations are brought down to this level.
Sadly, the product is not as well established in the American marketplace. But they do have a very good selection of European brands and blends.
I'd definitely thumb up if we're discussing possibilities of capsule machines as Ristrettolover has suggested.
(We still have ours, and it's actually set up in the Pool Room bar... an occasional Twinings' Chai Tea or Mastro Lorenzo Crema is pulled just to stay in practice.... yes, quite rare actually but that's compared to the brilliance of a Breville 900.
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MerleApAmber
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Location: Atlanta
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Breville BES900
Grinder: Baratza Preciso + Esatto
Vac Pot: Yuma
Drip: bah-humbug
Roaster: Hot Top 2K P
Posted Fri May 3, 2013, 6:17pm
Subject: Re: Super-automatic machine (buying advice)
 

MerleApAmber Said:

Tassimo worked(s) rather well, when considerations are brought down to this level.

Posted May 3, 2013 link

Ok, I don't know why I even mentioned this. Totally under shoots the objectives of the original poster and - well; quite frankly I just finished a cup of the Mastro Lorenzo Crema and it isn't anything I'd recommend to anyone who knows better ...or should...  My bad, I'm sorry.
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