cjam Senior Member Joined: 14 Apr 2013 Posts: 1 Location: Pacific Northwest Expertise: Just starting
Posted Sun Apr 14, 2013, 11:58pm Subject: which machine and grinder?
Need some help. After reading through reviews and forums I still don't know which machine and grinder to purchase that would be best for me. I would like something that would last for some time before needing to replace.
1) What kind of drinks do you like/want to make? (This will tell us what you need in terms of a machine's capabilities.) Mostly mochas but would like to try others.
2) How many drinks, on average, do you see yourself needing to make at any one time? (This will tell us what you need in terms of a machine's ability to work continuously.) 2 at most
3) How many drinks, on average, do you see yourself making in any given week? (This will tell us what you need in terms of a machine's durability.) Around 20
4) Can you plumb a machine directly into the water supply, or do you want/need a pour over machine with its own reservoir? Pour over machine
5) Do you have a 20-amp circuit available, or only a (standard) 15-amp circuit? Standard
6) What is your budget for a new machine? Does that also include a grinder? If not, what is your budget for a grinder? At most a 1,000 for both machine and grinder.
EndTwo Senior Member Joined: 13 Mar 2013 Posts: 89 Location: Denmark Expertise: I like coffee
Espresso: Apscaso uno steel prof Grinder: Mazzer Major DR + Mahlkönig... Drip: french press, ceramic v60... Roaster: skillet
Posted Mon Apr 15, 2013, 4:04am Subject: Re: which machine and grinder?
Im just coming from same situation, around same budget (ended up stretching a bit). However my options semmed to be more narrow due to danish supply-and-demand.
Sooo... what to do. Do you need to buy new or is refurbished/used and option? And youll need about 100 $ for knockbox, tamper, pitcher and the like I think.
Anyways start with the grinder, in the electric section, as Im assuming youll want one of those, the Baratza/Mahlkönig Vario seems to be absolut best in that pricerange. But if you need to buy new, itll eat something like half your budget. Still, good choice. It does however in the range of new machines leave you with a cheap choice of machines I dont know anything about. Maybe you can get a Gaggia classic. That would be my best advice within budget.
If you can stretch a bit the Crossland Cafe CC1 + vario seems to be the best choice, but including 100 $ accesories it goes to 1300 $... Only Ive found this: Seattle Coffegear bundles those two items for 999 $ here. Still means you need to go about 100 $ over budget (accesories)
emradguy Senior Member Joined: 31 Mar 2011 Posts: 3,533 Location: Houston Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: Duetto II; Twist v2 Grinder: M Major, Macap M4, Pharos,... Drip: Espro presses; Aeropress Roaster: H-B "List of Favorites"
Posted Mon Apr 15, 2013, 5:21am Subject: Re: which machine and grinder?
+1. That's the setup I'd go for, if I were in your shoes (assuming I could come up with the extra money for a few essential accessories).
You could save money on the grinder if you're interested in going manual (rather than electric). If so, you would not only save money, but could get something even better than your budget otherwise allows by purchasing an OE Pharos (~$250 new - iirc). The OE Lido is also a fine choice, at $165, but not in the same class as the Pharos.
. Always remember the most important thing is what ends up in your cup!
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