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Posted Tue Apr 23, 2013, 7:42am
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Posted Tue Apr 23, 2013, 8:22am
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Have you tried dialing the integrated all the way down with the unpressurized baskets?  I have seen videos from SCG and they have to dial it all the way down to get a good flowing shot.  If this works and say down the road you wan't to try ristretto's a bit of a larger dose and or more tamping makes this possible. The Hario Slim is a great little grinder too.  I have the Skerton and I am happy with it.  I'd still experiment with the integrated grinder I think once you get your technique down you will be pulling great shots.  If your looking for a good grinder under $200 I would look at Baratza or used commercial grinders.  I have heard good things about Ascaso stepless grinders and they go on sale from time to time.  I would use this as a last resort though seeing as how you already have the integrated grinder and a hand grinder on the way.  

If you don't end up dialing in the integrated grinder at least you will have a nice dedicated drip grinder ;)
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Posted Tue Apr 23, 2013, 8:48am
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What do you mean dial it down?  Like put it on the finest setting?  There are 16 setting and you can see a distinct difference between them. In the SCG video,  they use the pressurized baskets.
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Posted Tue Apr 23, 2013, 8:53am
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Yeah, I think he means to go to the finest grind setting and see what happens.  I would do all experiments w/ the non-PPF.  I went back and skimmed this thread really quickly.  I don't think anyone suggested getting a scale.  You should do that; it helped me immensely.  A 0.5g difference in grounds mass can make quite a difference.  Order one from Amazon or eBay, and make sure it can do 0.1g resolution.

Or...  if I missed something you're already there, can you tell us how much ground coffee you're using?  I guess you may not have your fresh beans yet, so I might be getting a bit ahead, but I'll be really interested to know how much grounds you're using.
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Posted Tue Apr 23, 2013, 9:01am
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Yes to the finest setting.  If it's the same specs as the breville smart grinder then this should work.  .  Here's the video Click .  I'll look around for a mod for finer settings.

UPDATE:   Read this post  
Watch this video
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Posted Tue Apr 23, 2013, 9:06am
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How many grams of coffee is ideal for a single and double shot. I have a food scale that I can use.
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Posted Tue Apr 23, 2013, 9:09am
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jonbik Said:

How many grams of coffee is ideal for a single and double shot. I have a food scale that I can use.

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I use 10g single
        14g double
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Posted Tue Apr 23, 2013, 9:14am
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I do ~18g doubles and ~23g triples.  I don't do singles at all.  Work with doubles only while you're figuring this out.  I don't know how big your basket is, but 14g is probably a good starting point.

How accurate is your scale?  Can it do 0.1g precision?
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Posted Tue Apr 23, 2013, 9:46am
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Ahh that's another thing, don't bother with the single baskets (single meaning single not just single wall, should have single baskets in both versions and double baskets in both). Pressurized single and double baskets is one thing, but pulling a shot with a single regular basket is almost a loss cause lol.... doubles are waaaaay easier.

As far as dose, depends on size of your double basket and clearance of your group head screen (don't want to hit the screen and then cause poor extraction but that's more of an issue with regular baskets not pressurized). On my double basket I dose around 16g on average, but can go to a limit of about 18g, some other machines can't go north of 15g.... all depends.

Make sure your scale measures to .1g, if it's just 1 gram, get one that reads to .1g (I bought mine on Amazon Prime for like 10 bucks). As with coffee you want to be accurate when measuring, as a .5-1g difference can totally affect the extraction. Make sure your machine is warmed up well too, at least 30 min with the portafilter on.

Burner0000 Said:

If your looking for a good grinder under $200 I would look at Baratza or used commercial grinders.  I have heard good things about Ascaso stepless grinders and they go on sale from time to time.  I would use this as a last resort though seeing as how you already have the integrated grinder and a hand grinder on the way.  

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Don't say Baratza under 200 as the only one would be the Encore lol, don't want to try to pull espresso shots with that ha. Virtuoso is like 230 I think, and the Preciso around 300. But the Virtuoso has wide steps, the Micro collar of the Preciso makes it a basically stepless grinder. Agree though, play with the built it and the hand grinder for now and go from there, I've pulled awesome shots with my Hario Slim.

Burner0000 Said:

Yes to the finest setting.  If it's the same specs as the breville smart grinder then this should work.  .  Here's the video Click .  I'll look around for a mod for finer settings.

UPDATE:   Read this post  
Watch this video

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I remember that guy lol, think he's on here? He eventually gave up on that machine and bought a CC1.
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Posted Tue Apr 23, 2013, 12:58pm
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here is a video. Click Here (www.youtube.com)    i used the end of my starbucks espresso beans and a unpressurized double shot basket. THIS TASTED LIKE CRAP!
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