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AmirPhoto
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Posted Wed Feb 26, 2014, 1:37pm
Subject: Re: Please read before you post New Machine buying question.
 

Hi there, I have read some pages here and not found my answer here.

I managed to buy some U-Milk Nespresso machine. it gives me nice espressos, but the frother is unable to give a real microfoam for latte (as you already know it gives a decent foam for Cappucinos instead).
I decided to buy some espresso machine, my first goal is to froth milk frequently and pull some shots espressos each time I had time to do this.
My facts:
- we drink two or three shots  a day of Nespresso Espresso
- I Love my Moka pot coffee very much and manage to have a coffee twice or three times a week
- I drink much less frequently drip coffee
- My next step after Espresso machine would be a Gaggia MDF for my espressos and moka pot.
- Alas, I can only manage to buy $200-$300 machines which are - as my knowledge let me - thermoblock driven with pressurized portafilters.
- since my first goal is frothing milk and less frequently pull a shot of espresso, its too confusing to choose between low end machines when your goal is steaming at the first place.
- I don't like stove-top steamers
- I won't buy steam espresso makers just because they are good at steaming.

I apologize if I rushed into this topic.

I'm not a Native English writer, so please forgive me if I did wrong on describing something.
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z0mbie
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Posted Mon Mar 3, 2014, 4:54am
Subject: Re: Please read before you post New Machine buying question.
 

Hi Amir,

Microfoam is possible with a frothing wand..  I suggest you give yourself a chance to learn the proper technique before taking a big leap to a machine just for milk frothing, given  you seem to be quite happy with the Nespresso espresso.   I drink Nespresso from time to time, and in fact I started my espresso journey on it, making mostly lattes.    I, too,, was not impressed by Nespresso's frothing performance.. They make fluffy foam for cappas but not microfoam needed for creamy, delicious lattes.  I opted to buy a bellman stovetop steamer but abandoned it because it was simply too much work.

Subsequently, I discovered the wonders of milk frothing with cheap frothing wand.   With the correct technique, it is capable of producing wonderful microfoam.  The nice thing about it compared to a machine is 5hat it costs less than $5,  it's portable so you can use it at work, and it is ready to use instantly.  

Anyway, here's a video I made to demonstrate making microfoam milk with a frothing wand to make a Nespresso latte.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5Vnvnza4t8

The beauty of frothing wands is that you can control, quite easily, how much rich or light your foam will be without continuing to heat your milk like you would on a traditional steam wand.   You have all the time you need.  

Technique:
1) Heat your milk in the microwave in a Pyrex pitcher.  Suggestion-- heat 2/3 cup of milk at full power for 1:15s in a 1000W microwave.  your milk will be very hot but you want it hot because the milk will cool as you froth your milk.  Frothing will take you anywhere between 15-25 seconds so by the time you're done, the milk will have cooled to optimal drinking temperature of 140degreesF.

2)  If you want to do latte art, pour your milk into a frothing pitcher.  Otherwise, you can froth the milk right out of the Pyrex pitcher.

3) Insert frothing wand at angle with the head right in the center of the pitcher, near the bottom.  Turn on the wand.   As soon as the whirlpool appears, air will start pulling into the milk causing bubbles.   Keep the wand in the center for about 2 seconds after the whirlpool appears.

4) Keeping the wand at an angle, move the wand away from the center enough that the whirlpool goes away to stop air from being pulled into the milk.  As the milk continues to circulate in the pitcher, the spinning head breaks the bubbles smaller and smaller.  If there are bubbles on the surface, raise the wand just enough to where the bubbles start getting pulled into the milk.. once they are all in, you can lower the wand again.  Stop once the milk achieves that rich, paint-like consistency.

If you want it more creamy, you can add a bit more air, and froth longer.. If you want it to be the thin, paint-like consistency for doing latte art, don't add so much air.      Keep in mind how long you need to froth depends also on your battery.. There is no standard time. You have to watch the consistency and stop where you want.  New batteries will get you there sooner.  Old batteries may not get you there at all.

Here is a video that demonstrates this technique precisely:

http://youtu.be/-Fslq1PEMf8


Give it a shot and let me know how it goes.  Good luck!
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schindler
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Posted Sat Mar 15, 2014, 2:15pm
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very helpful!
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dannyvice1967
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Posted Mon Mar 24, 2014, 6:54pm
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After these questions answered, it will be much easier for us to decide which espresso machine to buy. The only problem I felt tough is some burr grinder is not suitable for the espresso machines
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Coffeenoobie
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Posted Fri Mar 28, 2014, 11:43am
Subject: Re: Please read before you post New Machine buying question.
 

What happened to this being a sticky?

 
Coffeenoobie

Buying advice: GRINDER GRINDER GRINDER. Don't cheap out on the grinder.

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Posted Sun Mar 30, 2014, 10:21am
Subject: Re: Please read before you post New Machine buying question.
 

Bump.

 
Coffeenoobie

Buying advice: GRINDER GRINDER GRINDER. Don't cheap out on the grinder.

My coffee treasure map...
Click Here (maps.google.com)

Oscar trick out: http://s156.photobucket.com/user/GandBteam/story/14231
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Buckley
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Posted Wed Apr 2, 2014, 5:53am
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Bump +2
Again, why was this removed as a sticky?  It is too useful.

Incidentally, this sticky became unstuck about the time Mark Prince made an unusually frequent number of posts in the forum.  Mark, if you are reading this, no one seems to know why this post became unstuck.  Was that a decision that you made?  If so, is there any way of establishing a referendum on resticking it?
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TheRealScubaSteve
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Espresso: Delonghi EC155
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Posted Wed Apr 2, 2014, 12:27pm
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Buckley Said:

If so, is there any way of establishing a referendum on resticking it?

Posted April 2, 2014 link

Referendums have not worked out too well, lately in the world is any indication. Another bump for a useful thread.

 
"But it is not a perfect world and none of us are god-shots.  As for me, I am a little over extracted and therefore slightly bitter and my crema is thin..." -Buckley
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Posted Fri Apr 4, 2014, 5:09am
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Steve,
Thank you for the attribution.  My ego would like to thank you, too, but currently I have him 'grounded' for bad behavior.
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Coffeenoobie
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Espresso: N S Oscar
Grinder: K30 & Vario W
Posted Sat Apr 5, 2014, 11:03am
Subject: Re: Please read before you post New Machine buying question.
 

Bump!

 
Coffeenoobie

Buying advice: GRINDER GRINDER GRINDER. Don't cheap out on the grinder.

My coffee treasure map...
Click Here (maps.google.com)

Oscar trick out: http://s156.photobucket.com/user/GandBteam/story/14231
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