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tinytot2
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Posted Thu Mar 28, 2013, 11:45am
Subject: Leaving machine on?
 

Hi all!

I have a little SBDU machine that I'm pretty sure can't be on 24/7.  What could happen if I left it on?

How long do you leave your machine on / heating?  Can certain types of machines be left on constantly and others not?

Thanks for the help!
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Posted Thu Mar 28, 2013, 11:55am
Subject: Re: Leaving machine on?
 

if your machine doesn't not autofill the boiler, it can run dry and then the heating element can be ruined.  This is easy to solve, by running water through the machine a couple of times a day (basically forcing the boiler to draw water and refill)...though I don't think I'd risk leaving it on over night (never did when I had a Silvia). FAIK that's the only risk.

 
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Posted Thu Mar 28, 2013, 12:05pm
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Heat will slowly degrade the wiring and insulation if it is not built for being on all the time.  I went through group head gaskets faster when on 24x7.  Commercial machine (and light commercial like Oscar) and meant to be left on more than home machines.

 
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Posted Thu Mar 28, 2013, 12:09pm
Subject: Re: Leaving machine on?
 

Coffeenoobie Said:

Heat will slowly degrade the wiring and insulation if it is not built for being on all the time.  I went through group head gaskets faster when on 24x7.  Commercial machine (and light commercial like Oscar) and meant to be left on more than home machines.

Posted March 28, 2013 link

Oh my!  Thanks for the info.  My little Barista surely cannot stand up to that!
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Posted Thu Mar 28, 2013, 2:08pm
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Can't see the point of leaving a machine on burning 3kw an hour when in bed? Perhaps someone will enlighten me.
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Posted Thu Mar 28, 2013, 3:04pm
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dennisthemenace Said:

Can't see the point of leaving a machine on burning 3kw an hour when in bed? Perhaps someone will enlighten me.

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In this very cold spell, if it actually did use as much as 3kw per hour, it would at least help to keep your house warm overnight ;o)

I used to leave mine (small, single group commercial double boiler) on 24/7, although on its economy setting, which dropped the temperature, but took only a few minutes to come back up fully.  

These days, I use a simple timeswitch so it's fully warmed up by 07.30 (and on economy 7 too ;o))

It's mainly a convenience thing I think.  There's also a school of thought that components are more reliable when they aren't heated and cooled repeatedly, but I don't necessarily subscribe to that.  Also, timeswitches able to handle up to 3000 watts  are readily available and very cheap in the UK, but seemingly not so common in some other countries.
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Posted Thu Mar 28, 2013, 3:51pm
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I also use a timer set for 1 hour before I get up!  It's nice now having everything warmed up when I need to pull a shot . . .
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Posted Thu Mar 28, 2013, 4:28pm
Subject: Re: Leaving machine on?
 

the machine will not draw 3000 Watts constantly.

At most it will draw 15 to 20 seconds every couple of minutes.

most of the time it really is not that much of a deal as far as your electric goes.
if it ran for 20 seconds every 2 minutes, that would be 10 seconds per minute or 10 minutes per hour.  that is a far cry from being on constantly. my heater is 1800 watts so leaving it on is like leaving two 100watt lights on every hour. YMMV

 
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Posted Thu Mar 28, 2013, 6:19pm
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My CC1 has been on for two or three months. My electric utility provides a web based tool to monitor my power usage in 15 minute increments. I can't tell that it has made any difference in my electric bill.
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Posted Fri Mar 29, 2013, 6:05am
Subject: Re: Leaving machine on?
 

Well, back when I had a Barista, it got left on many a time overnight, sometimes for multiple days in a row. It is still going strong on the kitchen counter of a friend of mine some eight years later, but I would have to say in hindsight, I probably should have been more diligent in turning it off. Really, after those first morning shots, very rarely did I need it on at any other time of the day/evening, and certainly not at night.

I do need to pick up a timer for my Cellini, however. It takes a bit longer to warm up in the mornings than my old Barista. :)
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