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emil3m
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Espresso: Crossland CC1
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013, 5:51am
Subject: First time buyer--please advise
 

I am looking to upgrade from a Bialetti Moka Express.

My budget was set at $400. So I bought a Nespresso Citiz w Milk. HATED it. Since then, I've been painfully raising the budget.

SCG has a package deal right now: Crossland CC1 + Baratza Vario for 999 (free shipping, tax free). Very tempting. Is there a catch?

All thoughts and input would be valued!

 
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013, 6:25am
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Your'e right on the money!  I own a Silvia and the CC1 has taken the lead as one of the best deals as well as machines in the Price range. It can handle multiple shots pulled back to back as well as larger steaming capacity.  I also don't own a Vario but I have read lots!  It's a well built and capable grinder.  If I had $1,000 to blow on a setup I would go for it.  Even looking used you would be spending around $1000 for the same stuff.
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013, 9:07am
Subject: Re: First time buyer--please advise
 

I agree that's a good starter setup and it's a good price too for the gear you get.  In several months or years (up to you) you could easily keep the Vario if/when you decide to get a prosumer machine...or...you could just stay with that combo for many years and be quite happy.

Before you buy though...have you read the post with the standard questions and basic info?  Or have you read the buying guide on this site under guides and how tos?  It's important that you get equipment that is capable of meeting your needs.  For instance...and THIS IS ONLY AN EXAMPLE SCENARIO...if you plan to have 20 people to your house regularly and make espresso drinks for everyone, the CC1 won't cut it.

 
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013, 11:27am
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Given a Vario is $450, that's $550 for the CC-1.  A PID'd Silvia is almost $900.

Seems like a great deal though if you are prone to upgrading and general blinginess, the CC-1 would be alittle harder to sell than something like an Oscar or Silvia.  For pure functionality, the deal is hard to beat unless you go used.
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emil3m
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013, 3:26pm
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More about my uses. I really like a strong coffe flavor in my drinks. I like a double shot Americanno with a bit of steamed milk. Looking for ways to make a strong latte or a strong capp.

I'm a bit of a newbie, so help me out here. My reading of these forums shows that pulling more water is a NO-NO. So what would be a way to get the most coffee flavor out of one pull? I will be adding water and/or milk to it as I'm still used to an actual drink in the morning rather than a shot.

Lastly, I live alone and don't imagine ever serving more than 4 people at once.

So everybody thinks that the Vario will last even through an upgrade? and that a CC1 is a solid machine to get me started before I spend $9,000 on a Speedster :)?

 
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013, 4:10pm
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yeah, based on your usage, you'll be good to go for a long time with the CC1 and Vario.

btw, once you put milk in it, it's no longer an americano

 
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Posted Wed Mar 27, 2013, 5:55pm
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You don't want to run too much water through the puck because all the good stuff is gone in the first shot.  Add hot water from the group with the puck gone and a purge to get rid of grounds on the GH.

 
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