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sharky
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Posted Tue Jun 18, 2013, 7:08pm
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DeanOK, I was also leaning towards the QM 67 until I saw the Vetrano 2B!   It has everything I wanted & is beautiful to look at, too!   Here ya go . . .

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cuznvin
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Posted Tue Jun 18, 2013, 7:10pm
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

DeanOK Said:

To be honest, I have been looking more at the technical specifications... I guess its the geek in me. Now that it has been brought to my attention, I can see that it does have a few extra bends in the sheet metal and has a little nicer look.

Posted June 18, 2013 link

The QM67 has a vibe pump. The Vetrano 2b has a rotary pump
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Posted Tue Jun 18, 2013, 7:27pm
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Not only does it have a rotary pump,  it has the motor on top and the pump on the bottom so that if the pump should leak, it won't drip into the motor and possibly damage it.

This is something that DavecUK has been pushing for several years.

I was concerned about a rotary pump because of the possibility of leaks damaging the motor but the new configuration
definitely eases my mind on that point.
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Posted Tue Jun 18, 2013, 7:42pm
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

I owned a QM 67, the V2b is nicer looking, appears to have better fit and finish, rotary pump, both plumb or tank, slightly larger steam boiler, and according to CCS sales dept  is switchable between 15 and 20 amp. For couple hundred bucks more its worth it IMAO.
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CarloM
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Posted Tue Jun 18, 2013, 10:26pm
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dana_leighton Said:

For everyone who wants to see this machine imported - I think the best way is to call Chris with your payment info. Money talks as they say. :)

Posted June 18, 2013 link

Ok we all support CCS and appreciate their service, but are you really the kind of person ready to drop over 2 grand on a machine with little to no reviews?

I'm sorry but we must be in radically different income brackets because I can't drop over $2K without seeing some in depth reviews and testimonies on a machine.
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Posted Tue Jun 18, 2013, 10:43pm
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CarloM Said:

Ok we all support CCS and appreciate their service, but are you really the kind of person ready to drop over 2 grand on a machine with little to no reviews?

Posted June 18, 2013 link

Nope. But what I see here is an awful lot of yakking and not much buying - exactly what Chris was talking about:

chriscoffee Said:

Well call me an place an order and I can order them without the lights, no big deal.  Are you all just window shoppers or serious buyers?

Posted June 16, 2013 link


 
Dana Leighton - Espresso hack and CoffeeGeek moderator
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sharky
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Posted Tue Jun 18, 2013, 11:02pm
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

Yes, I for one, will be dropping the $2000+ for this machine!  A review or two would be great, but so far the machine looks like a winner!  It has all of the QM67 qualities and more . . . better looks, better fit & finish, DB, rotary pump, large 3 litre reservoir, plummable, not too large a footprint, an excellent company,  and best of all . . . an amazing price!  I don't want the lights on mine . . . at all . . . but other than that, this is a beautiful machine that should last me 10-15+ years!
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CarloM
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Posted Tue Jun 18, 2013, 11:17pm
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dana_leighton Said:

Nope. But what I see here is an awful lot of yakking and not much buying - exactly what Chris was talking about:

Posted June 18, 2013 link

I think Chris is a savvy and knowledgeable businessman who understands that most [though certainly not all] prospective customers would like to see a review of the item.

Or are you implying that Chris needs us to buy it first, and only when people purchase is it appropriate for him to review it?

I'm pretty sure that's not his (nor anyone else's) business model. If that were a successful model, then could you please buy this $2000 widget from me, and I'll send you the review after you send me the money? I know that's hyperbole, but I'm just trying to illustrate the fallacy of the point your making, that in order for us to get a review we have to spend the money first.
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Giampiero
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Posted Tue Jun 18, 2013, 11:17pm
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dana_leighton Said:

Nope. But what I see here is an awful lot of yakking and not much buying - exactly what Chris was talking about:

Posted June 18, 2013 link

I think Chris has giving to his interested customers the best words as possible, in effect if only a " good" review can be the key to close the deal he could issue one as the best ever......whenever.
Anyway this "review" expectation should confirm the great confidence to Chris by his clients, of course business are business.
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JaniceAnn
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Posted Tue Jun 18, 2013, 11:18pm
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I am going to buy a machine from Chris' soon so I am a serious buyer but I still would like to see a video and review before I make a decision between the Vetrano 2B and the Mini Vivaldi.

I am a visual learner so seeing something is what works best for me.

I don't see why this makes me a less than serious buyer.  I will willingly admit to indecisive.  Chris' isn't even taking pre orders until mid July I was told.

I think most of the need to see a video and review is both because I have never had an espresso machine and it is a great deal of money for us.   My husband is leaving the decision up to me on which machine to buy so that just makes the decision harder.   I don't want him to think I made a mistake and a poor choice though I don't think that either the Vetrano 2B or the Mini Vivaldi wouldn't be an excellent choice.
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