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CarloM
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Location: Los Angeles
Expertise: I live coffee

Espresso: Vetrano V2B
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Posted Fri Jul 19, 2013, 1:10pm
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

JaniceAnn Said:

I actually did it!

I placed my pre-order for the 2B.

I want to thank you all, especially Dave, for helping me to finally make a decision.

Now I can second guess myself until the machine comes and I find out that I really love it.

I wish I could be comfortable and confident in my decisions but that just isn't the way I am.

Posted July 19, 2013 link

No need to apologize, JaniceAnn - for most of us this is a major purchase with big financial implications. So it's just natural that you want to get what's best for you at the price you can afford. I think based on what Dave's written here, that you will be happy with your purchase. I'm just hoping to get on the list within a week or so, I'm just waiting for a certain cc offer that I've been ignoring/tossing (the last one expired at the end of June). As soon as I get that, with the instant $250 cash back and zero APR for first 15 months, I'm going to also place my order for the V2B.

We can sit here second-guessing ourselves until the cows come home. And technology being what it is, there will be something better in the future. Count on it. But is it worth always "waiting for the next big thing" when you could be enjoying some fantastic espresso drinks right now with a very classy V2B?
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Tonyv138
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Location: tx
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Espresso: V2B
Grinder: Mazzer SJ
Posted Fri Jul 19, 2013, 3:27pm
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

QM Vetrano 2B needs a standard 58mm tamper, correct?
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JaniceAnn
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Posted Fri Jul 19, 2013, 4:27pm
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Tonyv138 Said:

QM Vetrano 2B needs a standard 58mm tamper, correct?

Posted July 19, 2013 link

I hope so!

I ordered an Espro 58mm calibrated tamper from Chris' but I haven't received it yet.

I think all the E61s take 58mm don't they?
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DeanOK
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DeanOK
Joined: 24 Sep 2012
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Location: OK
Expertise: I like coffee

Espresso: QM Vetrano 2B
Grinder: Vario W
Posted Fri Jul 19, 2013, 5:13pm
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

JaniceAnn Said:

I hope so!

I ordered an Espro 58mm calibrated tamper from Chris' but I haven't received it yet.

I think all the E61s take 58mm don't they?

Posted July 19, 2013 link

I do think you are correct. I have a Espro Calibrated 58mm tamper I plan on using with my 2B when it gets here.
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Tonyv138
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Espresso: V2B
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Posted Fri Jul 19, 2013, 6:40pm
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

Perhaps DavecUK can provide a recommendation. Tamper size and best configuration, if that part matters, flat or concave

thanks
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emil3m
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Joined: 13 Jan 2013
Posts: 106
Location: New York
Expertise: Just starting

Espresso: Crossland CC1
Grinder: Vario
Posted Sat Jul 20, 2013, 4:26am
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

DeanOK Said:

I do think you are correct. I have a Espro Calibrated 58mm tamper I plan on using with my 2B when it gets here.

Posted July 19, 2013 link

Did you already preorder? If yes, will you be able to write a review?
I know that you love your CC1 and would be very interested to read your perspective in that respect.

 
Currently in love with Hayes Valley by Blue Bottle--locally roasted next to my house in Brooklyn
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DeanOK
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Espresso: QM Vetrano 2B
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Posted Sat Jul 20, 2013, 5:05am
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

emil3m Said:

Did you already preorder? If yes, will you be able to write a review?

Posted July 20, 2013 link

Yes, I preordered. I will be glad to offer my opinions after a few weeks, but I don't consider myself to be any kind of expert. There is plenty of people in this community that have doubted the refinement of my palate.
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emil3m
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Espresso: Crossland CC1
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Posted Sat Jul 20, 2013, 5:09am
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

DeanOK Said:

Yes, I preordered. I will be glad to offer my opinions after a few weeks, but I don't consider myself to be any kind of expert. There is plenty of people in this community that have doubted the refinement of my palate.

Posted July 20, 2013 link

Congrats! I'm assuming you will be using it on a reservoir--particularly interested in the preinfusion process.
Enjoy the testing period!

 
Currently in love with Hayes Valley by Blue Bottle--locally roasted next to my house in Brooklyn
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DeanOK
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DeanOK
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Espresso: QM Vetrano 2B
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Posted Sat Jul 20, 2013, 6:53am
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

emil3m Said:

Congrats! I'm assuming you will be using it on a reservoir--particularly interested in the preinfusion process.
Enjoy the testing period!

Posted July 20, 2013 link

I will be using it on reservoir, but I actually could plumb in water and drain withy my current configuration. If I plumbed it in, I would feel the need to add a water treatment system to it. I doubt I will ever plumb it in simply because I don't want to create holes in the cabinet for the plumbing. Right now, I use bottled water.
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floydo
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Espresso: Pid Silvia, La Pavoni, Alex...
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Posted Sat Jul 20, 2013, 7:25am
Subject: Re: Another DB Quickmill
 

Tonyv138 Said:

Perhaps DavecUK can provide a recommendation. Tamper size and best configuration, if that part matters, flat or concave

thanks

Posted July 19, 2013 link

An E61 is a specific design, and they all require the same size baskets, tamper, internal springs, seals, etc.(for mechanicaly actuated E61s)...As for flat or concave, search is your friend.  You will uncover a lot of discussion.  Kind of like naked portafilters for technique, or Stockfleths move, etc....

This machine has some very nice, subtle design refinements over the Duetto and a number of other dual boiler machines; and a very nice price, although one can argue steam boiler size and insulation coverage, etc, it should produce very nice shots once the operator develops their technique.  

One additional aspect is all new designs can have teething issues, and this machine is an iteration of QM dual boilers.  DavecUK has provided lots of good inputs regarding design (to QM and others), and it sounds this should be a reflection of those inputs.

It is always a good idea to open up the Italian hand built machine occasionally in its early life to observe for leaks, obvious wiring dress issues, etc.  That also will introduce the owner to the machine.  This is a bit of a wander, but reading the comments from people exploring the world of espresso, it is hard to resist some editorial......

Enjoy the ride

:)
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