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Posted Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:15am
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Well, lately I am just blue jag and 3+oz of milk.  But the nestle's super dark chips grated with a micro grater on top taste really good to me.  It was what I had on hand.

 
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Posted Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:21am
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DeanOK Said:

A bit off topic but I am in the process of going "paperless" in my home office and I have been scanning old invoices and receipts. I ran across the manual and receipt for my very first espresso machine. I have not been sure of the brand unitl now. It was a Briel San Remo ES-52. I purchased it on 10-2-1995. Total price was $171.97. I used to really enjoy my mochas I made with that machine.  I have not been able to make mochas with either the Jura or the CC1 that I enjoyed as much as the ones I made with that machine. In those days, I would buy beans from a local coffee shop that were a pretty oily espresso roast and grind them at home.

Posted March 24, 2013 link

I really don't know why the machine would make such a huge difference. My local roaster has 10 different machines set up that I can go in and use. Maybe a local shop there would let come in and run some tests on various machines.

 
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Posted Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:22am
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Coffeenoobie Said:

Well, lately I am just blue jag and 3+oz of milk.  But the nestle's super dark chips grated with a micro grater on top taste really good to me.  It was what I had on hand.

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You know, I've never even tried dark chocolate. My fiance can't stand dark chocolate so I rarely have any but might be worth a try.

 
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Posted Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:29am
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I like the dark chocolates to add to coffee.  You want the most punch in the least dilute package.

 
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Posted Sun Mar 24, 2013, 10:32am
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Flavors taste different on different machines and grinders.  Maybe that machine ran hot or cold affecting your coffee in a way you liked.  Or had a rising heat profile or just varied the temp in the shot.

 
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Posted Sun Mar 24, 2013, 3:16pm
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DeanOK Said:

... I would buy beans from a local coffee shop that were a pretty oily espresso roast and grind them at home.

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Seems pretty basic, but did you try those beans with your new gear? The roasts you are currently using are quite different from dark and oily.
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Posted Sun Mar 24, 2013, 3:23pm
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diggi Said:

Seems pretty basic, but did you try those beans with your new gear? The roasts you are currently using are quite different from dark and oily.

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Yes, I recently tried beans from the same shop... couldn't get a good taste. Of course, it has been many years since I bought beans there. Maybe my romanticized memory of the past makes a difference.... and then maybe not.
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Posted Fri Mar 29, 2013, 5:01pm
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Got my Redline. I was shooting for the profile #2 in their suggested profiles. That recommendation was 19 grams of coffee, 101.5 F, 19.5 grams yield in 21-23 seconds. I turned the CC1 up to 105 based on some other posts that suggested this would give me an actual brew head water temperature closer to the 101.5 range. My first attempt yielded 16 grams in 23 seconds. My second attempt yielded 20 grams in 23 seconds. Both times my taste was pretty respectable.

This makes me think my draws were way too long when I was using Redbird. I never tried to create a shot with a yield that low with Redbird. Most of the time I was hitting between 30 and 40 grams (from 18 grams of coffee) with my thoughts that about 32 grams was my sweet spot. I never tried to pull a shot that was only 19 grams (or less), so maybe I should. Any opinions? It might be a few days before I try to experiment with redbird again... but just thinking out loud.

I know timing shots and using a "recipe" to create a shot goes against the grain of many (not to mention all of the milk and sugar I add), but I don't think I have a refined enough taste to know how to adjust a shot, so the very specific recommendations that Redline offers is a big help for me to at least start out in a decent place.
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Posted Fri Mar 29, 2013, 5:54pm
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I usually shoot for 1.75-2oz, with 16-18 grams, right around 16 right now for the beans I'm using. We make a lot of milk drinks as well so need at least that amount as anything less starts getting weak to cut through milk.
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Posted Sat Mar 30, 2013, 12:13pm
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Dean,

I swung by my local McDonalds to try one of their mochas after seeing this thread, and I can see why my non-coffee appreciating friends enjoy the "cuban" style lattes I make for them... since they taste VERY similar.

If you're still interested in making a mocha at the house that is similar to what the golden arches has.... try stirring in two teaspoons of condensed milk into your espresso, before mixing it in with your milk (and add a touch of chocolate).

I'm fairly certain you'll enjoy what it tastes like.  It's about as close to their's as you can get while still using "normal" ingredients (i.e. no molecular gastronomy required!)
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