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MDiddy
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Posted Thu Mar 14, 2013, 10:16am
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scanfield Said:

How do you clean your water reservoir? I took it out and used a long-handled scrub brush, but I'm not sure it really did much. I'm thinking about letting the reservoir sit with a weak bleach solution in it overnight. Is that a bad idea?

Posted March 14, 2013 link

I'd avoid using bleach.  The smell of that will not be easily removed and I'm sure, will linger and affect water taste.  

Just let the reservoir sit in a soapy solution over night and then rinse in the morning.  You should be fine.
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Posted Fri Mar 15, 2013, 10:07am
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slybarman Said:

A nice video that explains the workings of the E61 and HX.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jn28YTS3OQ

Posted March 12, 2013 link

D: This was such an amazing video that I had to finally stop lurking and make an account so I could thank you.
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MDiddy
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Posted Fri Mar 15, 2013, 10:16am
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kajitox Said:

D: This was such an amazing video that I had to finally stop lurking and make an account so I could thank you.

Posted March 15, 2013 link

It really is.  

Amazing how simple and yet complex the whole thing actually is.
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Posted Fri Mar 15, 2013, 10:49am
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Glad y'all found it useful.  They posted another the next day that explained more of the innards.

Edit - I would add that there is another video in that series posted today talking about pre-infusion. Mr. Crossland's take on the usefulness of using the middle lever position on an E-61 with a vibe pump is somewhat at odds with what I had read over the last couple years here and on HB. He makes it sound like some additional pre-infusion can be had via the pressure build up in the HX. I have a hard time seeing how there could really be any pressure in there following the cooling flush.
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Posted Fri Mar 15, 2013, 1:59pm
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scanfield Said:

How do you clean your water reservoir? I took it out and used a long-handled scrub brush, but I'm not sure it really did much. I'm thinking about letting the reservoir sit with a weak bleach solution in it overnight. Is that a bad idea?

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Only use bleach as a LAST resort when there is black mold in a reservoir. Otherwise, non-abrasive dish wash detergent with hot water sitting overnight and rinsed the next morning should be fine. Please do no not place the reservoir in the dishwasher.

 
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Posted Fri Mar 15, 2013, 7:59pm
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Sly,

Would like to ask you one more favor.

You always seem to be able to pour a great rosetta in your pics.  I know you're using the no burn wand with the two hole tip (same as mine), but I just can't seem to get a decent pitcher of steamed milk with this thing.  I'm either getting an iceberg on top, or thin milk with no foam.  Kind of frustrating actually.  I''ve tried all different techniques and can't seem to get it down.

Would it be possible for you to explain your milk steaming technique?   Maybe even perhaps post a small video showing the process?
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Posted Sat Mar 16, 2013, 5:25am
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MDiddy Said:

Sly,

Would like to ask you one more favor.

You always seem to be able to pour a great rosetta in your pics.  I know you're using the no burn wand with the two hole tip (same as mine), but I just can't seem to get a decent pitcher of steamed milk with this thing.  I'm either getting an iceberg on top, or thin milk with no foam.  Kind of frustrating actually.  I''ve tried all different techniques and can't seem to get it down.

Would it be possible for you to explain your milk steaming technique?   Maybe even perhaps post a small video showing the process?

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Actually, I went back to using the original arm, but only because I really missed my little $1 plastic handle that lets me articulate the arm around easily. There isn't any real difference in steaming between the two arms.

If you are getting an iceberg on top, you are either injecting air for too long at the start and/or you are steaming for too long. I only inject air for about 3 seconds and then I sink the tip. While you are learning, use a thermometer and make sure you stop by about 120f or so. Later you will get a feel for when to stop by feeling the pitcher.

Even if you get an iceberg on top, you can often save the pitcher by swirling the pitcher vigorously on the counter to re-incorporate the stiffer milk into the rest of the pitcher.

I will see about doing a video, but the problem is I need a camera person if there is any hope to really see down into the milk pitcher. While my wife is good at a lot of things, videography does not seem to be one of her talents. :)
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Posted Sat Mar 16, 2013, 10:15pm
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Re steaming...here is what works for me every time (still working on the pouring technique). My Cuadra I has the no burn steam wand w/ the 2 hole tip that comes with that arm. Boiler pressure set to .8 to 1.0 bar. 20 oz pitcher filled just below the spout.

Here's a quick video of my steaming and pouring technique

My biggest suggestion...have the steam wand pointed down...I originally pulled it up so it was at a 45 degree angle in the pitcher, but the sweet spot for me is about 70-80 degrees. The steeper angle creates a much stronger whirlpool than a 45 degree angle. Also, I wait a sec or two before I start foaming for the milk to start swirling in the pitcher (i get less big bubbles in my foam). see here for a better explanation - page 69 of this thread

Hope it helps (btw I used 2% trader joes)
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Posted Sun Mar 17, 2013, 4:12am
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Nice pour Grant.
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Posted Sun Mar 17, 2013, 5:19am
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Congratulations La Nuova Era Cuadra owners on a great machine. I thought I read here about a resin ball for water treatment and
how it needs to be rinsed every month???? Could someone give me a breakdown of maintenance routine please? Thank You.
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