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Posted Tue Mar 12, 2013, 7:29pm
Subject: Re: PID my Silvia, or go CC1?
 

fredk01 Said:

FWIW, the CC1 gives you a few more features like preinfusion and timed shots.  I guess it depends what you are looking for.

Posted March 12, 2013 link

Spoken like a man considering an upgrade.

 
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Posted Wed Mar 13, 2013, 12:16am
Subject: Re: PID my Silvia, or go CC1?
 

DaninMaryland Said:

For the $200 i would spend to PID her, i could upgrade to a CC1.  Which would you do?

Posted March 12, 2013 link

Neither one thing, nor the other, because both machines are still SBDUs. I'd save some more money and go HX.

Let's still consider the options. Apart from delivering you from the need to temperature surf, a PIDed Silvia won't do much to improve the quality of your shots. This might, however, be considered an improvement of convenience. The CC1 on the other hand offers some additional advanced features like programmable pre-infusion and volumetric shot dosing, but since you claim that steaming is not an issue, the extra thermoblock seems superfluous to you. Still, there's even more convenience at hand and a tool to possibly enhance your shots by experimenting with the pre-infusion of the CC1.

So if it's PID or CC1 for you, I'd probably choose the later.

 
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Posted Wed Mar 13, 2013, 4:27am
Subject: Re: PID my Silvia, or go CC1?
 

NobbyR Said:

I'd save some more money and go HX.

Posted March 13, 2013 link

+1 Dance with the one that "brung ya" and save for an HX.  I would not purchase to produce exclusively or even primarily straight shots, IMO.

 
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Posted Wed Mar 13, 2013, 6:14am
Subject: Re: PID my Silvia, or go CC1?
 

thanks for all the responses.  if i go with the PID'ing the Silvia, do you think it is worth it to pay an extra $35 for steam control?  the single control is only $150, so not as much as i thought.

THoughts?
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Posted Wed Mar 13, 2013, 7:52am
Subject: Re: PID my Silvia, or go CC1?
 

fredk01 Said:

FWIW, the CC1 gives you a few more features like preinfusion and timed shots.  I guess it depends what you are looking for.

Posted March 12, 2013 link

The auber PID has programmable preinfusion and timed shots.:) You already own the silvia. No brainer.
The auber kit is easy to install and directions are excellent.

I believe the pre infusion PID is a bit more $. Its been a long time since i PID,d my old silvia.

If you want to build the pid into the front facia. There is room (top right corner) of facia. You will need a dremel and cutting disk.

Picture here.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b376/zedex/sylvia.jpg
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Posted Wed Mar 13, 2013, 8:17am
Subject: Re: PID my Silvia, or go CC1?
 

A CC1 wouldnt be anything more than a techie upgrade from the sylvia, though it does have the additional steam block. If you really feel the upgrade itch but dont want to go too crazy price wise, try the Breville Dual Boiler: PID, Dual Boiler, A bunch of other upgrades from the sylvia.

PID is really only helpful if you aren't getting consistent shots otherwise. I hear good things for the sylvia, and if you're happy with it why spend the cash?

 
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Posted Wed Mar 13, 2013, 8:48am
Subject: Re: PID my Silvia, or go CC1?
 

acasabia Said:

A CC1 wouldnt be anything more than a techie upgrade from the sylvia, though it does have the additional steam block. If you really feel the upgrade itch but dont want to go too crazy price wise, try the Breville Dual Boiler: PID, Dual Boiler, A bunch of other upgrades from the sylvia.

PID is really only helpful if you aren't getting consistent shots otherwise. I hear good things for the sylvia, and if you're happy with it why spend the cash?

Posted March 13, 2013 link

i want to add PID for consistency.  never meant this as an upgrade or anything.  just simply which option.  either way i am looking at roughly $200 to invest, its either spend the $200 to add PID to Silvia, or sell and pay the difference of $200 for a CC1.  this was never meant to be an uprgrade issue, as both machines to me are basically the same.  

the issue was, if you were going to spend $200 either way, what would you prefer, adding PID or getting a CC1?  the option i choose does not impact any future upgrades, etc.

at this point i think i am going to just add PID to my Silvia.  been reading a lot on the CC1.  its still a new product and made in Taiwan.  want to see the long term performance of the machine.  i already know the Silvia inside and out and its east to work on and parts are really easy to get.  thanks for the input everyone.

back to my follow up...is it worth an extra $35 to upgrade to steam control on the PID?
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Posted Wed Mar 13, 2013, 9:04am
Subject: Re: PID my Silvia, or go CC1?
 

It sounds to me like you just have an itch to spend $200.  It's not too hard to pull back to back good shots with the Silvia unless you're pulling shots for 10+ people.  I say pocket the money.
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Posted Wed Mar 13, 2013, 9:12am
Subject: Re: PID my Silvia, or go CC1?
 

DaninMaryland Said:

stuck in a dilema.  i currently have a V2 Silvia.  For the $200 i would spend to PID her, i could upgrade to a CC1.  Which would you do?

Posted March 12, 2013 link

Neither.  I'd stick the $200 into my upgrade fund.

DaninMaryland Said:

i want to add PID for consistency.  never meant this as an upgrade or anything.

Posted March 13, 2013 link

Well, hopefully you can see why people were confused.  If you look at your OP you literally stated "For the $200 i would spend to PID her, i could upgrade to a CC1.".

DaninMaryland Said:

is it worth an extra $35 to upgrade to steam control on the PID?

Posted March 13, 2013 link

Worth's always subjective so you'll get mixed answers.  As indicated on Auber's site, the heater will kick on a bit faster with the PID controlling it.  Whether that's worth it to you or not is your call to make.
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Posted Wed Mar 13, 2013, 9:22am
Subject: Re: PID my Silvia, or go CC1?
 

crazy4espresso Said:

It sounds to me like you just have an itch to spend $200.  It's not too hard to pull back to back good shots with the Silvia unless you're pulling shots for 10+ people.  I say pocket the money.

Posted March 13, 2013 link

huh?  when i read all the time about how much better/easier the Silvia with PID and how much it is always recommended on this forum, not sure why i seem to be getting negative feedback on this thread (not necessarily from you, just in general)...also, since when is spending money on upgrades/bling to machines frowned upon on this forum, lol!

just trying to make things easier and better for myself
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