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Settembrini
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Posted Wed Jul 24, 2013, 6:44am
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carz07 Said:

im not using the programmable button but i just want to clarify these

are you changing grind setting? if yes then perhaps those times that its a buzz it might be too tight
what basket are you using for the programmable? i think those two are meant for the dual wall, i could be wrong if its only for the dual wall
bean age, how frequent are these intermittent problems? coffee age and when they start to age you start chasing them, usually if the coffee is starting to stale there is less resistance and the flow will be fast, if its fresh then there is resistance and creates a tight seal and you dont get a flow unless you grind a bit loose

people here that might be using the programmable buttons can help more as they used it but what i said above is in relation to beans and grind that might affect both programmable buttons and manual buttons and also baskets

Posted July 23, 2013 link

Thanks carz07 for the reply.  To answer your questions, I do change the grind setting as coffee ages, but no differently than I have for the last two years with this machine.  It is possible I am more aggressive than I used to be; not sure.  I do not use double-walled baskets, but did not realize the cup buttons were reserved for those.  I'll switch to the manual button and give that a try.  I use a variety of beans.  Lately I have been roasting my own and my grinder has bit the dust. Maybe using the manual button, and a better grinder will help with this issue.
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Posted Wed Jul 24, 2013, 7:40am
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Settembrini Said:

Thanks carz07 for the reply.  To answer your questions, I do change the grind setting as coffee ages, but no differently than I have for the last two years with this machine.  It is possible I am more aggressive than I used to be; not sure.  I do not use double-walled baskets, but did not realize the cup buttons were reserved for those.  I'll switch to the manual button and give that a try.  I use a variety of beans.  Lately I have been roasting my own and my grinder has bit the dust. Maybe using the manual button, and a better grinder will help with this issue.

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use the manual buttons as you can control your extraction from there. but it wouldnt hurt you get that weird sound fix even if you will not use it anymore.

most of the time i use different SO beans and grind set do change and related to roasting temp also. when you do manual i advise and what ive learned from bubbadude is to weight your beans and your shots. i dont use marking my glass with equivalent volume since you might encounter beans or blends that have more crema. although the crema weight is very small since its mostly air, still it can affect the height of the marker, so use the scale and weight to make sure you are getting the correct weight regardless of the crema produced. get another grinder, a vario is good, ive noticed in your profile you are using smart grinder, some dark roast needs tight grind, and the smart grinder just cant reach a tight set than the vario.

 
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Posted Fri Jul 26, 2013, 5:15pm
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Here's a video of one of the 2 Breville DB machines, the ORACLE, that was introduced at the SCCA in Boston. While this video was obviously produced by Breville it appears to represent somewhat of a blind taste test. My guess is that the automatic nature of the milk frother might make it into a V2 of the BES900.

http://vimeo.com/68506978

As to latte art here's another of a pro doing what they do but with the ORACLE in this case.

http://vimeo.com/68080597

I do not see the ORACLE, in any way, as a replacement for the BES900, but as somewhat of a semi-full automatic. However, when I showed the video to my spouse, the instant response was "I want that one". Maybe I was wrong.
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Posted Sat Jul 27, 2013, 7:43am
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carz07 Said:

... ive noticed in your profile you are using smart grinder, some dark roast needs tight grind, and the smart grinder just cant reach a tight set than the vario.

Posted July 24, 2013 link

Well as things happen, the smart grinder went belly up so have switched to a Baratza and the espresso is coming out much better anyway.  The grinder was out of warranty but Breville is sending me a refurbished one at no cost.  I have to say I have no complaints about their customer support and service.  I'll be giving them a call about the buzzing; sounds to me like a solenoid is not always catching.  But that is just a guess.  Thanks again for the valuable feedback.  It will certainly help me going forward.
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Posted Sat Jul 27, 2013, 7:54am
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Settembrini Said:

Well as things happen, the smart grinder went belly up so have switched to a Baratza and the espresso is coming out much better anyway.  The grinder was out of warranty but Breville is sending me a refurbished one at no cost.  I have to say I have no complaints about their customer support and service.  I'll be giving them a call about the buzzing; sounds to me like a solenoid is not always catching.  But that is just a guess.  Thanks again for the valuable feedback.  It will certainly help me going forward.

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not a problem as long as i can help, people here helped me out so im just paying forward

 
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Posted Thu Aug 8, 2013, 9:46pm
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as a new bes900xl owner, i've finally caught up on all the posts in this thread!

question for old version (bes900xl, not /b) owners: does using a completely blind filter basket (instead of the old generation cleaning disc with a pinhole) during the clean cycle (with cleaning tablet) mess up the machine, or is it acceptable to do so? i ask because one post earlier in this thread described what sounded like a dead pump following a routine clean cycle. i have an old model (serial 1132-), but I don't have any cleaning disc, pinhole or otherwise. i was just going to use a 58mm blind filter, but wanted to make sure that would be fine. after all, it sounds like the original clean cycle with the old generation of machines was designed for use with that pinhole letting some water through the pf...

thanks!
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Posted Fri Aug 9, 2013, 4:44am
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Using a completely blind filter is a-ok for any version of pretty much any espresso machine with an OPV (which the Breville has).  I have no idea why they originally had a pinhole in the "blind" filter, but that was corrected pretty quickly even within the original /a or non-/b run.
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Posted Fri Aug 9, 2013, 8:42am
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great, thanks!
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Posted Fri Aug 9, 2013, 10:52am
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2400 W sounds impressive - should I assume it will be tripping my circuit breakers?...
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Posted Fri Aug 9, 2013, 10:57am
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what's a reasonable price range to pay for a good quality scale?  accessories are fun but the price can add up...
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