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Posted Fri Feb 22, 2013, 9:43pm
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cuznvin Said:

Maybe you can find a roaster in the Us that would be willing to ship to you. Then you could possibly freeze the beans..(another sore subject here)
Have you tried to find videos online that may help you with the BDB?

Posted February 22, 2013 link

ive seen videos about bdb online. one of the post here was "does it taste good as it looks", i have pulled many shots that looked perfect but tasted differently. that is why i like this thread specially bubbadude, his helped on the 1:2 made and the bdb temp surf made a significant difference, the approach of taste over the looks. as always its the end cup taste now, and not the looks.

i never explored the freeze beans thing - i dont know any roaster in the states that is willing to do that and if they would ship to the philippines. shipping to the philippines using express is very expensive and mail service is not that good.

 
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Posted Fri Feb 22, 2013, 9:48pm
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carz07 Said:

i never explored the freeze beans thing - i dont know any roaster in the states that is willing to do that and if they would ship to the philippines. shipping to the philippines using express is very expensive and mail service is not that good.

Posted February 22, 2013 link

Do you roast your own? Green beans keep for a year or so, that may be the way to go.

 
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Posted Fri Feb 22, 2013, 10:05pm
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BubbaDude Said:

Do you roast your own? Green beans keep for a year or so, that may be the way to go.

Posted February 22, 2013 link

hi bubbadude, i dont know roasting yet hehehe so im just going to rely on my roaster. the prob i have with the roaster with that he is using a different machine, hehehehe he is using a 14g for a double using a straight wall, while i need to do a 18g on a bdb stock basket hehehhe

 
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Posted Fri Feb 22, 2013, 10:08pm
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carz07 Said:

hi bubbadude, i dont know roasting yet hehehe so im just going to rely on my roaster. the prob i have with the roaster with that he is using a different machine, hehehehe he is using a 14g for a double using a straight wall, while i need to do a 18g on a bdb stock basket hehehhe

Posted February 22, 2013 link

That shouldn't make much difference. Would he be willing to experiment with some Sweet Maria's beans? Could be fun.

 
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Posted Fri Feb 22, 2013, 10:15pm
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BubbaDude Said:

That shouldn't make much difference. Would he be willing to experiment with some Sweet Maria's beans? Could be fun.

Posted February 22, 2013 link

they import SO beans and they do blend also

this might be off topic but in a way related - should blends be done after roasting?

also bubbadude, im using SO but roated for espresso, im uisng the SO for my drip also. Would you recommend doing really getting the espresso blends? i mean am i trying to learn things and learning it the hard way?

im keeping up with your 1:2 and the temp surf - i use different SO with it

 
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Posted Fri Feb 22, 2013, 10:38pm
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carz07 Said:

they import SO beans and they do blend also

this might be off topic but in a way related - should blends be done after roasting?

also bubbadude, im using SO but roated for espresso, im uisng the SO for my drip also. Would you recommend doing really getting the espresso blends? i mean am i trying to learn things and learning it the hard way?

im keeping up with your 1:2 and the temp surf - i use different SO with it

Posted February 22, 2013 link

If the beans are similar in their roasting requirements, they roast them together, but it not they roast separately and then blend to taste.

I went through one phase where all the beans I roasted were blends, but lately I've been roasting mostly SOs. But that's because I'm working on my roasting technique and trying to detect subtle flavor differences. I have 8 different Ethiopian beans, and the differences between some of them are quite dramatic.

 
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Posted Fri Feb 22, 2013, 11:31pm
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BubbaDude Said:

If the beans are similar in their roasting requirements, they roast them together, but it not they roast separately and then blend to taste.

I went through one phase where all the beans I roasted were blends, but lately I've been roasting mostly SOs. But that's because I'm working on my roasting technique and trying to detect subtle flavor differences. I have 8 different Ethiopian beans, and the differences between some of them are quite dramatic.

Posted February 22, 2013 link

that is what we've noticed with ethiopian (doing manual pour over). so bubbadude i have to do blends to start with right?
the bdb temp surf eliminated with bitterness, not burned but bitter. do you have any suggestion regarding the sour part? is this sour or a palate reaction (acidity)? i did a test with very low temp to get the sour coming in and its the palate reaction was lasting, but this one is that it makes a reaction but just a quick one, is this the acidity kick or is this a still sour and needs a finer tweaking? any tips on how to address this with some features from bdb like the temp surf?

 
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Posted Sat Feb 23, 2013, 1:59am
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What's your temp? Could be good to kick it up a notch.

 
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Posted Sat Feb 23, 2013, 2:35am
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BubbaDude Said:

What's your temp? Could be good to kick it up a notch.

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im at 198, the 199-201 is giving me the bitter taste, more than the 201 is really bitter
im using SO beans roasted for espresso

 
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Posted Sat Feb 23, 2013, 4:14am
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You could extend the pull by a few seconds, but that might be as good as you can get with that particular bean/roast. I find commercial "espresso roast" is over-roasted for my taste. Are the roasted beans dark and oily?

 
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