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MishaInAz
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Posted Fri Feb 22, 2013, 12:03pm
Subject: Crossland CC1: Too much water when brewing...
 

Hello,

You probably guessed that I am a newbie!  You are correct! :P  I have just purchased the Crossland CC1 and made my first espresso, but it was watery.  I put finely ground coffee into the filter, I selected 1 cup for the size, I put a large cup under the output, I told the machine to make the espresso.  It completed the process in 26 seconds and made 9.5 oz of coffee.  I assumed that a 1 cup espresso setting would generate about 1 oz of coffee, so I was very surprised.  I repeated the process, but for 2 cups of espresso, and had the same results... 9.5 oz output in 26 seconds.  So...  Assuming that 1 cup should be 1 oz, how to I adjust the output volume of the machine?  Adjust to total brewing time?  It seems to be the only variable that might do it, but I am not sure.  I would really appreciate your help!

Thanks,

Mike
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Posted Fri Feb 22, 2013, 12:08pm
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What grinder and how old are you beans from roast date?

 
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Posted Fri Feb 22, 2013, 12:37pm
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On the CC1 1" cup" doesn't mean 1oz or a cup etc, it's just a setting. You have 1 cup, 2 cup, then pod... each one is just a setting that you can just use manually (stopping the shot whenever you want), or pre program each one for a different pre-infusion, dwell time etc. If you got 9.5oz of coffee in 26 seconds, your not using the right grind by far, or fresh beans. What grinder do you have? If you buying store bought beans w/o a roast date, their stale, easily 6-12 months old stale. Need fresh roasted beans and an espresso capable grinder.

I usually pull 25-30 second extractions on my CC1 timed from "1st drip", have preinfusion set to 2 and wait time to 2. Usually between 1.5-2oz, I try to aim closer to 2 oz.
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Posted Fri Feb 22, 2013, 12:57pm
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Hi Coffeenoobie & CMIN,

Thank you for your quick responses!  So, it seems that there are no adjustments to be made to my CC1, just in my process! :P  The beans that I have are 3-weeks old, but I am using my old Braun burr grinder.  It worked with my former Kraup espresso machine, but, based on your feedback, must be terribly inadequate for my new CC1.  I suspect that it is the problem...  I will do some research and get a good quality grinder.  

Thank you, CMIN, for the clarification as to what 1 cup meant.  I assumed that they had dialed in some approximate settings for properly making 1 cup of espresso.  When I looked at the settings, I see that they are empty except for temperature and brew time.  I set the preinfusion to 2 and wait to 2.  I will see what happens with the new grinder.

Thanks for the help and have a great evening/day!

Mike
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Posted Fri Feb 22, 2013, 1:03pm
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MishaInAz Said:

Hi Coffeenoobie & CMIN,

Thank you for your quick responses!  So, it seems that there are no adjustments to be made to my CC1, just in my process! :P  The beans that I have are 3-weeks old, but I am using my old Braun burr grinder.  It worked with my former Kraup espresso machine, but, based on your feedback, must be terribly inadequate for my new CC1.  I suspect that it is the problem...  I will do some research and get a good quality grinder.  

Thank you, CMIN, for the clarification as to what 1 cup meant.  I assumed that they had dialed in some approximate settings for properly making 1 cup of espresso.  When I looked at the settings, I see that they are empty except for temperature and brew time.  I set the preinfusion to 2 and wait to 2.  I will see what happens with the new grinder.

Thanks for the help and have a great evening/day!

Mike

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Yeh that Braun grinder is a pos (no offense lol), all those cheap ones just "mash" the beans, and only work for the low end machines with pressurized portafilters (like the Krups), which is basically fake espresso and crema as you can have coarse grinds but it's forcing the extraction through a tiny pin hole in the portafilter, and that grinder use on a machine like the CC1 will give you fast gushing shots like you saw. With quality machines you have real portafilters to which you need a capable grinder, at a minimum the Preciso which runs around $300 or so. Depends on what you want to spend.
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Posted Fri Feb 22, 2013, 4:48pm
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I have a CC1. If you are using a 30 lb tamp and not even getting close, you need a new grinder.
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