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mishkin
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Posted Tue Feb 19, 2013, 12:11pm
Subject: Alexia by Quick Mill  v. Expobar Office Lever Semi-Automatic
 

I am thinking of replacing my Gaggia Twin with a new machine.  Any opinions on Alexia by Quick Mill  v. Expobar Office Lever Semi-Automatic ?  Expobar Office Control looks interesting too, but it is nearly as expensive as the Office Lever.   I will be using a Rancillio Rocky grinder.   Any other suggestions ($1200 or less)?  We drink expresso, lattes, and macchiatos so steaming is an issue.
Thanks for you input.
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Posted Tue Feb 19, 2013, 12:16pm
Subject: Re: Alexia by Quick Mill  v. Expobar Office Lever Semi-Automatic
 

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My opinion is with your stated budget you have a lot more choices than 2, not even mentioning my Oscar.

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Posted Tue Feb 19, 2013, 3:08pm
Subject: Re: Alexia by Quick Mill  v. Expobar Office Lever Semi-Automatic
 

Why are you comparing the Alexia -- an SBDU machine -- with the Expobar, which is an HX machine?  Wouldn't it make more sense to compare an HX from Quick Mill with the Expobar?  (Just askin')

 
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Posted Wed Feb 20, 2013, 7:31am
Subject: Re: Alexia by Quick Mill  v. Expobar Office Lever Semi-Automatic
 

Price range.  My wife is tolerant of my vices, but only up to a point.  The Expobar seems like the best bet, but I thought that I would see if anyone had a better idea.
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Posted Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:25am
Subject: Re: Alexia by Quick Mill  v. Expobar Office Lever Semi-Automatic
 

Ive never steamed on my alexia, probably never will. that's why I never even looked at HX machines. If youre steaming get an HX. see if there are any buyers remorse or refurbs that will bring the prices down a bit. theres an oscare for 850 here: http://www.chriscoffee.com/category_s/7624.htm
same as I paid for my alexia.
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Posted Wed Feb 20, 2013, 3:25pm
Subject: Re: Alexia by Quick Mill  v. Expobar Office Lever Semi-Automatic
 

Then you're making the wrong comparison.  Between an SBDU and an HX, the HX wins hands down!  So why did you choose these two machines in the first place?  Something drew you to them.  What was it?  And why not compare apples to apples, HX to HX?

The least expensive option for a new Expobar Office Lever is $1,199.  (I'm still not sure I'd get it, but it certainly is worth looking at.)  But if it's budget that keeping you in the $1200 range, why haven't you looked at other HX machines in that same range?  

First of all, can we review the Standard Questions:
1)  What kind of drinks do you like/want to make?  (This will tell us what you need in terms of a machine's capabilities.)
2)  How many drinks, on average, do you see yourself needing to make at ay one time? (This will tell us what you need in terms of a machine's ability to work continuously.)
3)  How many drinks, on average, do you see yourself making in any given week?  (This will tell us what you need in terms of a machine's durability.)
4)  Can you plumb a machine directly into the water supply, or do you want/need a pourover machine with its own reservoir?
5)  Do you have a 20-amp circuit available, or only a (standard) 15-amp circuit?
6)  What is your budget for a new machine?  Does that also include a grinder?  If not, what is your budget for a grinder?

And even before you answer them, I'd suggest you take a look at machines like the Nuova Simonelli Oscar, the Bezzera BZ07, and others . . .

 
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Posted Wed Feb 20, 2013, 5:55pm
Subject: Re: Alexia by Quick Mill  v. Expobar Office Lever Semi-Automatic
 

JasonBrandtLewis Said:

The least expensive option for a new Expobar Office Lever is $1,199.  (I'm still not sure I'd get it, but it certainly is worth looking at.)  But if it's budget that keeping you in the $1200 range, why haven't you looked at other HX machines in that same range?  

Posted February 20, 2013 link

I never really understood why it was not a good seller, perhaps it's the looks.

When I reviewed/tested one back in 2006 I was quite impressed with it for the price. I used it for about 3 weeks and it worked flawlessly. It is simple and easy to maintain with the use of Generic components. The pressurestat is not the best in the world (I think it was a Parker Stat), but it could be easily be replaced with the better Mater XP110 and as long as you didn't keep buggering about with it it was usually OK. It's a good machine and if a decent HX is wanted at a budget price, it's a hard act to follow.

In the UK people don't buy it, but then the ECM barista can be had for only 200 more and is a much higher quality machine. However if 1200 is cheap compared to similar machines in the US, then there there is nothing wrong with the Expobar office Lever.
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Posted Thu Feb 21, 2013, 6:39am
Subject: Re: Alexia by Quick Mill  v. Expobar Office Lever Semi-Automatic
 

As I've explained previously, I had a bad experience with an Expobar unit (not a Brewtus).  That's why I wouldn't buy it.  YMMV.

 
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