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Posted Wed Feb 20, 2013, 2:13pm
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Posted Wed Feb 20, 2013, 2:18pm
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JasonBrandtLewis Said:

Types of Machines (01/04/2012)

Standard Questions (12/12/2011)

(I may be stupid, but I'm not dumb!)  ;^)

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If your not, perhaps I am, but I don't get a valid site when I click those,  "bad request"   :)

 
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Posted Wed Feb 20, 2013, 2:53pm
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To answer for him, yes it is saved, copied and pasted. If you do a good job once... why not use it again!

 
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Posted Wed Feb 20, 2013, 3:34pm
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D4F Said:

If your not, perhaps I am, but I don't get a valid site when I click those,  "bad request"   :)

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Fred?  I just clicked on the blue links -- all four of them; the two in my post, and the two in your quote of my post -- and they all work perfectly for me!

 
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Posted Wed Feb 20, 2013, 3:40pm
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Jason, thanks for that, I like your posts.  Probably my own filters, but I get this

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Posted Wed Feb 20, 2013, 3:53pm
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OK, if I type the full address, this site converts the address into the title of the post, rather than showing the URL, so . . .

1) Copy the URLs below.
2) Paste into your browser bar.
3) Delete the spaces contained in the URL.
4) Hit "Return"

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Posted Wed Feb 20, 2013, 4:21pm
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Got it Jason, thanks.

 
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Posted Wed Feb 20, 2013, 5:59pm
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Ever Said:

My main use is for daily double shots before work. Sometimes two back-to-back when the girlfriend joins. Then I make caps on the weekend and definitely fancy some awesome microfoam.

I'd love a machine that I don't have to "mod." I'm a tinkerer at heart, but it pains me to see threads about "necessary" mods to something like the Gaggia Classic - a machine I've considered to be an upgrade from mine.

So what tier is above the mentioned SBDU units (standard go-to machines)? And what about after that?

Posted February 19, 2013 link

Seems to me that you would be a perfect candidate for the Crossland CC1.  You are not making a lot of back to back drinks and only occasional milk drinks, so I don't see the need for a heavy duty HX type machine.

Take what I write with a grain of salt because I do not have a lot of experience, but I have done this analysis for myself several times over and I keep coming back to the CC1 as the best option for light use.  It is cost effective and offers several more advanced features you cannot get from an sbdu.

JasonBrandtLewis Said:

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THEN you can classify machines by their boiler type (and please note, I am ignoring thermoblock units):
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Jason.  Why are you ignoring termoblock units?  At the CC1 price point, they seem to fit an unfilled niche: people like me that want quality espresso, but are not heavy enough users to warrant an HX of DB type machine.
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Posted Wed Feb 20, 2013, 6:57pm
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I am sure that Jason will be able to give his own answer.

Is the CC1 better that what OP is using, clearly.  I believe the Gaggia Classic is also, and stated that early.  Is the CC1 a cost effective "intermediate" machine?

fredk01 Said:

At the CC1 price point, they seem to fit an unfilled niche: people like me that want quality espresso, but are not heavy enough users to warrant an HX of DB type machine.

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I could be wrong, but seemed that OP already has eyes for the upgrade and is looking for "intermediate" machine.  You are not touting CC1 as your intermediate, but as your niche.  I think that we are trying to answer that narrow question, not better or niche.

 
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Posted Wed Feb 20, 2013, 7:33pm
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D4F Said:

I could be wrong, but seemed that OP already has eyes for the upgrade and is looking for "intermediate" machine.  You are not touting CC1 as your intermediate, but as your niche.  I think that we are trying to answer that narrow question, not better or niche.

Posted February 20, 2013 link

I re-read the original post.  That makes sense.  I'm one of those guys that doesn't like to 'waste' money on intermediate upgrades (that's my upgrade theory).

You could look at the CC1 as a trial end point.  It offers enough to be a solid step up from the OP's current setup with the possibility to upgrade to a heavy duty machine in the future if required.
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