cuznvin Said:

We were discussing factory workers and products , not espresso machines in particular. We all have our own opinions and this is mine as yours is to choose the BDB.

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BubbaDude Said:

This is CoffeeGeek, let's try to stay on topic.

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BubbaDude Said:

How many espresso machines do American factory workers make?

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BubbaDude Said:

How many espresso machines do American factory workers make?

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JasonBrandtLewis Said:

(Yes, well, I can see we're staying on topic . . . )

Richard, my first instinct would say none, because machines like those produced by Salvatore (which come with a 6-year warranty, by the way), Astra, and Synesso -- to name three companies which manufacture their espresso machines here in the US -- are all hand-built in "workshops" as opposed to on a factory-type assembly line . . . but since one could certainly call the place where one manufactures even a hand-built machine a "factory," then I suppose the real answer would be "all of them."

For serious numbers, however, the information would have to be gleaned from each and every specific company, but I somehow doubt they'd tell you, claiming that the information was "proprietary," or something similar.

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cuznvin Said:

Yes sir, Moderator Richard...

As far as espresso machines. I will most likely choose one made in italy. It certainly will not be china. Im not concerned with the chinese workers salaries being cut. I dont eat veal either because of how the calves are treated and the antibiotic issue. I also dont eat foie gras because of the disgraceful way the ducks are treated... So, whether you think this is on topic or not...it is all related in one way or another.

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AlexKilpatrick Said:

We understand that you will not be buying a BDB for a wide variety of reasons.  Once you have established that, I don't see what purpose you have continuing to post in the BDB owner's thread?  Anyone considering the BDB should be well aware that they are made in China by now, and should be able to make up their own minds about whether that is important to them.

I think you might get better traction starting a "10,000 reasons why Breville and the BDB sucks" thread.

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JasonBrandtLewis Said:

(Yes, well, I can see we're staying on topic . . . )

Richard, my first instinct would say none, because machines like those produced by Salvatore (which come with a 6-year warranty, by the way), Astra, and Synesso -- to name three companies which manufacture their espresso machines here in the US -- are all hand-built in "workshops" as opposed to on a factory-type assembly line . . . but since one could certainly call the place where one manufactures even a hand-built machine a "factory," then I suppose the real answer would be "all of them."

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AlexKilpatrick Said:

Thanks for sharing this.  I had no idea there were any machines being made in the US -- I assumed everything was Italian.   I would definitely consider one of those if I ever have to replace my machine.

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JasonBrandtLewis Said:

Richard, my first instinct would say none, because machines like those produced by Salvatore (which come with a 6-year warranty, by the way), Astra, and Synesso -- to name three companies which manufacture their espresso machines here in the US -- are all hand-built in "workshops" as opposed to on a factory-type assembly line . . . but since one could certainly call the place where one manufactures even a hand-built machine a "factory," then I suppose the real answer would be "all of them."

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