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Posted Tue Feb 19, 2013, 11:15am Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread

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Posted Tue Feb 19, 2013, 11:18am
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread

cuznvin Said:

What part of that is bashing?

Posted February 19, 2013 link

I didn't say it was bashing. My comment was that I (as a BDB owner) don't go to the QM thread and post my negative opinions of their machines.

I really don't see why non-BDB owner's feel compelled to post in this thread. Is the title of the thread confusing? Is our purchase of this machine somehow insulting to you such that you feel a need to post here?

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Posted Tue Feb 19, 2013, 11:20am
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread

cuznvin Said:

What part of that is bashing?

Posted February 19, 2013 link

In expressing regret for the closure of the original BDB thread, he insinuates that he has something more to say on the advantages, or rather disadvantages, that the BDB suffers from in comparison with a rival product, the QM Silvano; a product he owns.
The next quote:

"Still rocking along with my QM Silvano - just sayin'..."

is a clear jab at BDB owners in light of the recent shortcoming of the machine, posted in a BDB owner's thread, so YES, this constitutes as bashing. Clear?

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Posted Tue Feb 19, 2013, 11:20am Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread

At this point, I have three issues with the BDB: The firmware in the early machines was buggy, and there's no way for the owner to update it on his own. The warranty is non-transferable. It shouldn't matter who the original purchaser was if the machine has a design defect like the crappy code. The seals between the two halves of the solenoid are badly designed. Breville is totally unhelpful and the service center doesn't inspire confidence. The counter help asked me if the machine has a grinder in it. Duh. The fact that the housing is plastic doesn't bother me, it's not a functional part of the machine so steel panels aren't worth the cost. I like the electronics in the machine, it's the code that seems to be a problem. But we'll see what happens at the service center.

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Posted Tue Feb 19, 2013, 11:20am
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread

cuznvin Said:

Are you looking to start arguments here? Your posts are not very productive either for that matter

Posted February 19, 2013 link

I think trying to get the thread back on track to being a discussion among BDB *owners* is productive.

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Posted Tue Feb 19, 2013, 11:26am
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread

BubbaDude Said:

At this point, I have three issues with the BDB:

Posted February 19, 2013 link

Have you tried to escalate this a little higher along the customer service chain? I expect you are getting the front-line rote scripts from some call center monkey.

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Posted Tue Feb 19, 2013, 11:26am
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AlexKilpatrick Said:

I think trying to get the thread back on track to being a discussion among BDB *owners* is productive.

Posted February 19, 2013 link

you think your posts are trying to get the thread back on track?? you are delusional

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Posted Tue Feb 19, 2013, 11:28am
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread

AlexKilpatrick Said:

I don't go to the QM thread and try to bash those machines.

Posted February 19, 2013 link

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Posted Tue Feb 19, 2013, 11:36am
Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread

cuznvin Said:

you think your posts are trying to get the thread back on track?? you are delusional

Posted February 19, 2013 link

I don't see why this is hard to understand. The BDB owner's thread should be for owners to discuss problems, solutions, tips, tricks, etc. What is the point of having someone who doesn't even own the machine come in and gloat about how their machine is still working, or to discuss the limitations they see of the BDB, or whatever? Those make sense in a discussion where someone is considering one machine or another, but why have that here? Presumably, everyone here already has the machine.

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Posted Tue Feb 19, 2013, 11:39am Subject: Re: Breville Dual Boiler BES900XL Owners Thread

BubbaDude Said: The warranty is non-transferable. It shouldn't matter who the original purchaser was if the machine has a design defect like the crappy code. Posted February 19, 2013 link I know this is too late to help you but for anyone else that may be in this predicament...just tell Breville you got it as a gift that way you don't have to show them proof of where or when you purchased it and they won't deny you a replacement.

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