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afchad
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013, 1:39am
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]Click Here (i273.photobucket.com)cant seem to find any info on it.  is S.A.S. a brand?

At any rate I have a chance to pick it up for under 300.  Thanks in advance, Chad
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013, 1:40am
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i'd skip it.

never seen one but it doesnt look like it'd be worth that much.  if it ever breaks, good luck fixing it too.
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013, 2:04am
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I venture it's a thermoblock SBDU machine. I has an integrated grinder (which is mostly inferior, also the heat from the boiler can lead to warming of the beans inside the hopper, which desintegrates their aroma), a steam wand with a panarello (which is useless for making microfoam suitable for latte art), and might just have pressurized baskets or a pressuized portafilter (not sure about that, but if it does, you won't be able to brew decent espresso). Also it's not a common brand, in fact I never heard of it before, so it will be hard to get spare parts.

I'd skip that offer.

 
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013, 3:05am
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I can't be specific without taking a look at the insides, but it looks a lot like the 53mm version of the Lelit Combi, or in North America the La Pavoni Napoletana Combi. If it's got a brass boiler inside, it will be a good starter machine, the grinder is excellent for espresso. Ignore the BS about "the heat from the boiler warming the beans", it is simply ignorance and is not backed up by actual experimental data from someone who has either owned or tested these machines.

IF the group is 53mm and IF the boiler is brass then all the bits and pieces will be Saeco compatible and easily available. If it's got an aluminium boiler, run away.

Alan
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013, 3:23am
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alanfrew Said:

... it looks a lot like the 53mm version of the Lelit Combi, ...

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I agree, there's a certain resemblance, but the hopper, the switches and the dial are all on the other side.

 
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013, 4:23am
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mmmm i guess ill pass, the individual said they pd over 1000 for it.  Im just not a gmbler like that...i prefer a near sure thing...Thanks for all the quick replies
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013, 5:00am
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If it's the sort of thing you want, then $300 is a reasonable price to pay. You can always sell it in three years for $250. Counting the buttons shows that it does not have a three way valve (It would have a separate brew button AND water button) but it is a clone of the cheaper lines Mokita/IMAT/Pavoni machines of that type.
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Posted Mon Feb 11, 2013, 9:56am
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SStones Said:

If it's the sort of thing you want, then $300 is a reasonable price to pay. You can always sell it in three years for $250. Counting the buttons shows that it does not have a three way valve (It would have a separate brew button AND water button) but it is a clone of the cheaper lines Mokita/IMAT/Pavoni machines of that type.

Posted February 11, 2013 link

The Gaggia Classic doesn't have separate brew and water buttons, and has a three way valve, so that's not necessarily true.  Pressing the steam switch and brew switch together turns the pump on without opening the group valve to give hot water from the steam wand.
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