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bwcasolo
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Espresso: ranchilio silvia
Grinder: baratza preciso
Drip: krups
Roaster: behmor1600
Posted Thu Jan 24, 2013, 5:24pm
Subject: upgrade from a silvia?
 

i have had the slivia for 3 years. it has not at all given me the fit's i have  read about. it works perfectly every morning in delivering me a great shot of home roasted coffee.
if i were to upgrade, under 1000$ name the non lever machines that would fit my requirement. thanks
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qualin
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qualin
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Location: Calgary, AB
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Espresso: Izzo Alex Duetto 3
Grinder: Mazzer Mini Elect. Type A
Vac Pot: Looking to buy
Drip: Manual
Roaster: Considering?
Posted Thu Jan 24, 2013, 8:23pm
Subject: Re: upgrade from a silvia?
 

bwcasolo Said:

i have had the slivia for 3 years. If i were to upgrade, under 1000$ name the non lever machines that would fit my requirement. thanks

Posted January 24, 2013 link

That's the thing.. The Silvia is a pretty good machine to begin with. Anything you buy under $1000 will not be an upgrade at all. I think that in order to get a
significant upgrade from your Silvia, you would need to spend at least $1200-$1600 on a machine.

If you really want to upgrade, upgrade your Baratza Precisio grinder to something considerably higher end, Like a Mazzer or a Macap grinder. You'll notice a
considerable difference in the taste of your coffee by moving to a higher end grinder over a higher end machine.

Good luck!

 
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JasonBrandtLewis
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Espresso: Elektra T1 - La Valentina -...
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Drip: CCD, Chemex
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Posted Thu Jan 24, 2013, 9:06pm
Subject: Re: upgrade from a silvia?
 

bwcasolo Said:

if i were to upgrade, under 1000$ name the non lever machines that would fit my requirement. thanks

Posted January 24, 2013 link

Wrong question . . . or at least a "premature question," to say the least.  You havent' told us
-- what your requirements are; or,
-- why you are thinking of "upgrading."

Questions that you may want to think about, and we need the answers to, if you want us to offer some meaningful suggestions:

Standard Questions:
1)  What kind of drinks do you like/want to make?  (This will tell us what you need in terms of a machine's capabilities.)
2)  How many drinks, on average, do you see yourself needing to make at ay one time? (This will tell us what you need in terms of a machine's ability to work continuously.)
3)  How many drinks, on average, do you see yourself making in any given week?  (This will tell us what you need in terms of a machine's durability.)
4)  Can you plumb a machine directly into the water supply, or do you want/need a pourover machine with its own reservoir?
5)  Do you have a 20-amp circuit available, or only a (standard) 15-amp circuit?
6)  What is your budget for a new machine?  Does that also include a grinder?  If not, what is your budget for a grinder?

Cheers,
Jason

 
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bwcasolo
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Location: iowa
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Espresso: ranchilio silvia
Grinder: baratza preciso
Drip: krups
Roaster: behmor1600
Posted Fri Jan 25, 2013, 4:49am
Subject: Re: upgrade from a silvia?
 

yes i know, after posting and re-reading my question, it was too late and a couiple extra home brews kept me from deleting it. i appreciate the upgrad response about the grinder. good questions jason, thanks, i have been chewing on most of them for a while, since my preciso crapped out, new and improved on the way, i have been doing some research. this is part of it.
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JasonBrandtLewis
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Espresso: Elektra T1 - La Valentina -...
Grinder: Mahlkönig K30 Vario -...
Vac Pot: Yama 5-cup
Drip: CCD, Chemex
Roaster: No, no, not another...
Posted Fri Jan 25, 2013, 8:22am
Subject: Re: upgrade from a silvia?
 

Yes, but you still didn't answer any of the questions . . . .

 
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bwcasolo
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Location: iowa
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Espresso: ranchilio silvia
Grinder: baratza preciso
Drip: krups
Roaster: behmor1600
Posted Sat Jan 26, 2013, 8:39am
Subject: Re: upgrade from a silvia?
 

hey jason, we make 2 double expresso's a day. on the weekend i have two. it is a low use item here, we do not entertain where there is alot of action, no milk drinks.
based on the info and research i have recieved and done,  i am quite pleased with the silvia. upgrade from the preciso, to a larger mmflat burr grinder will probably be the upgrade that will do the trick for me. cheers
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JasonBrandtLewis
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JasonBrandtLewis
Joined: 9 Dec 2005
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Location: Berkeley, CA
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Espresso: Elektra T1 - La Valentina -...
Grinder: Mahlkönig K30 Vario -...
Vac Pot: Yama 5-cup
Drip: CCD, Chemex
Roaster: No, no, not another...
Posted Sat Jan 26, 2013, 9:08am
Subject: Re: upgrade from a silvia?
 

It's eSpresso, but that's OK . . .

bwcasolo Said:

based on the info and research i have recieved and done,  i am quite pleased with the silvia.

Posted January 26, 2013 link

This is exactly the reason I wanted to know why you are thinking of upgrading.

bwcasolo Said:

upgrade from the preciso, to a larger mm flat burr grinder will probably be the upgrade that will do the trick for me.

Posted January 26, 2013 link

Still . . . budget? how much room do you have for a grinder?

Depending upon the answers, you may want to take a look at the following, presented in a somewhat random order:

Grinders with Doser:
-- a Mazzer Super Jolly
-- a Compak K-6
-- a Fiorenzato Doge

(among others)

 
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qualin
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qualin
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Posts: 653
Location: Calgary, AB
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: Izzo Alex Duetto 3
Grinder: Mazzer Mini Elect. Type A
Vac Pot: Looking to buy
Drip: Manual
Roaster: Considering?
Posted Sat Jan 26, 2013, 1:28pm
Subject: Re: upgrade from a silvia?
 

bscasolo:

If you decide to go with a Doserless grinder, there are a few on the market which would be a significant upgrade from what you have:

- Macap M4 Digital
- Mazzer Mini Electronic Type A/B
- Mazzer Super Jolly Electronic
- Ceado E37 (No reviews on this site yet about this grinder, so YMMV!)
- Mahlkonig ProM "Espresso" grinder. (Choose the "All Around" one if you plan on grinding something other than espresso grind.)

Again, it all depends on what your budget is for a grinder.

I personally have the Mazzer Mini Electronic myself and I love this grinder. It's quiet, consistent, easy to use and it just works. My only beef with it,
is that the grind adjustment is really stiff and is a pain to do fine adjustments with. (Unless I tap the handle with a tamper, then it's not that bad.)

I'd personally recommend a doserless grinder myself, especially considering your shot volumes. The advantage to buying a dosered grinder is that
they're better value for the money and they're also cheaper than the electronic equivalent. The disadvantage is that you have to clean out the doser
with a brush after every use to get out excess grinds so they won't stale and muck up your next shot.

The consensus seems to be that the larger the burrset the grinder has, the faster it can grind and the better quality grind it will produce.

Good luck!

 
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bwcasolo
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Location: iowa
Expertise: I love coffee

Espresso: ranchilio silvia
Grinder: baratza preciso
Drip: krups
Roaster: behmor1600
Posted Sat Jan 26, 2013, 3:57pm
Subject: Re: upgrade from a silvia?
 

thanks qualin, very nice tips, btw i canoe in southern ontario, awesome country!
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