qualin Senior Member Joined: 30 Jun 2012 Posts: 457 Location: Calgary, AB Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Izzo Alex Duetto 3 Grinder: Mazzer Mini Elect. Type A Vac Pot: Looking to buy Drip: Manual Roaster: Considering?
Posted Wed Jan 16, 2013, 9:24pm Subject: Puck knocks out "Dirty"
I realize this is a stupid question, but I thought I should ask here, I'd like some opinions.
When I had my Silvia, when I knocked out the puck, it left the portafilter nearly clean.
When I knock the puck out of the portafilter which came with my Duetto, I've been noticing a lot of leftover residue in the portafilter. So much so, I usually have to rinse it off in the sink.
I'm wondering if the portafilter baskets in the Silvia are teflon coated or something?
Do VST baskets knock out "Clean" pucks? Are they coated with an anti-stick material?
Markarian Senior Member Joined: 27 Jun 2012 Posts: 474 Location: Seattle Area Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Modded Nuova Simonelli Oscar Grinder: Vario-W, Mazzer Super Jolly Drip: Moka, Aeropress, Melitta 102 Roaster: Wear-Ever Popcorn Pumper
Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013, 5:33am Subject: Re: Puck knocks out "Dirty"
I use the VST 18g Ridgeless and my pucks sometimes slide right out and sometimes adhere to the bottom. It's a crapshoot, really, but I'm one of those crazy people who has four or five different roasts on hand and changes between them during the day, depending on how I'm feeling. I'm sure if I didn't have a Vario, this would be next to impossible.
germantownrob Senior Member Joined: 2 Dec 2007 Posts: 2,007 Location: Philadelphia Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Duetto 3, A Dead Oscar Grinder: Vario-W, Preciso w/Esatto,... Drip: Brazen Roaster: Diedrich IR-1, HT B
Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013, 5:44am Subject: Re: Puck knocks out "Dirty"
qualin Said:
I realize this is a stupid question, but I thought I should ask here, I'd like some opinions.
When I had my Silvia, when I knocked out the puck, it left the portafilter nearly clean.
When I knock the puck out of the portafilter which came with my Duetto, I've been noticing a lot of leftover residue in the portafilter. So much so, I usually have to rinse it off in the sink.
I'm wondering if the portafilter baskets in the Silvia are teflon coated or something?
Do VST baskets knock out "Clean" pucks? Are they coated with an anti-stick material?
I just got my Duetto on Monday, I have not tried the baskets that came with the machine, I love my HQs for updosed triples, 23-26g, doubles are all VST baskets but have only had triples since it arrived. I will do some doubles with VST and the stock double and see what I see. Triples have always come out dirty for me and use paper towel to wipe clean for consecutive pulls, at the end of a session I usually rinse the PF and basket at the sink to get oils off as well, the rinse seems to add time inbetween detergent soaks.
I report back with results from stock baskets on my machine.
calblacksmith Moderator Joined: 25 Nov 2007 Posts: 5,642 Location: Riverside, Ca, U.S.A. Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: ECM Veneziano A1 Grinder: Many different commercial Vac Pot: 40s era Silex Drip: Milita, Bunn&Curtis... Roaster: Cast iron pan, gas burner
Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013, 6:52am Subject: Re: Puck knocks out "Dirty"
I may get some crumbs that don't knock out, never more than, oh, 1/18 teaspoon, I simply wipe them out with a paper towel when drying the basket for the next shot. Not a big deal and I have never felt the need to wash the PF, regardless of how much stuck to the inside of the basket.
As for oils etc, I use a naked PF all the time and it is simple to clean the basket on both sides and then there isn't a bottom of a PF to clean so oil residue isn't a problem for me.
In real life, my name is Wayne P.
Feed the newbs, starve the trolls and above all enjoy what you drink!
jwoodyu Senior Member Joined: 31 Dec 2010 Posts: 704 Location: Michigan Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Allex Duetto II Grinder: Mazzer Major Roaster: Poppery
Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013, 7:02am Subject: Re: Puck knocks out "Dirty"
Likewise. Double leave a very little but some in my VST and trips leave more. At the end of the session i rinse run some water through the group and basket then wipe the basket with a tea towel. It clears the screen and gives some moister for wiping down the basket. Does it do it every time? If you dry the basket out before you dose maybe it does it less just guessing
You know those people that want to tell you how to raise your kids but have none of their own? That is how i feel when someone with a kitchen appliance tells me how the merits or dis-merits of my machine or how to use it.
emradguy Senior Member Joined: 31 Mar 2011 Posts: 1,692 Location: Houston Expertise: I live coffee
Espresso: Izzo Alex Duetto II Grinder: MacapM4T, Macap M4, OE Lido,... Drip: Espro press; Aeropress Roaster: internet
Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013, 7:14am Subject: Re: Puck knocks out "Dirty"
similar experience here very little grounds left in the basket between shots, sometimes it's hard to tell whether that was the wet puck hitting the edge of the basket on its way out to the knockbox, or just residual after disposing the puck. However, I do rinse my pf and basket between shots (and I also used naked). I like to rinse, because it flushes the shower screen at the same time, then I dry out the basket with a small towel before prepping the next shot.
germantownrob Senior Member Joined: 2 Dec 2007 Posts: 2,007 Location: Philadelphia Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Duetto 3, A Dead Oscar Grinder: Vario-W, Preciso w/Esatto,... Drip: Brazen Roaster: Diedrich IR-1, HT B
Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013, 8:25am Subject: Re: Puck knocks out "Dirty"
The luxury of plumbing in, in tank mode I am a water miser, rinse group, back flush, wipe, no water to spare for PF cleaning, and I can't stand the grounds and their reflection in the drip tray. I am in the beginning stages of the plumbing plan, I hate crawling into sink cabs to work.
germantownrob Senior Member Joined: 2 Dec 2007 Posts: 2,007 Location: Philadelphia Expertise: I love coffee
Espresso: Duetto 3, A Dead Oscar Grinder: Vario-W, Preciso w/Esatto,... Drip: Brazen Roaster: Diedrich IR-1, HT B
Posted Thu Jan 17, 2013, 2:55pm Subject: Re: Puck knocks out "Dirty"
I pulled a few shots with the 18g VST and I got just as much grind left behind as I do with the big triple HQs. The thing is in both types of baskets the grind is slightly sticking in the same area, as if I have a few weak spots in my drying of the basket technique.
Symbols: = New Posts since your last visit = No New Posts since last visit = Newest post
Forum Rules: No profanity, illegal acts or personal attacks will be tolerated in these discussion boards. No commercial posting of any nature will be tolerated; only private sales by private individuals, in the "Buy and Sell" forum. No cross posting allowed - do not post your topic to more than one forum, nor repost a topic to the same forum. Who Can Read The Forum? Anyone can read posts in these discussion boards. Who Can Post New Topics? Any registered CoffeeGeek member can post new topics. Who Can Post Replies? Any registered CoffeeGeek member can post replies. Can Photos be posted? Anyone can post photos in their new topics or replies. Who can change or delete posts? Any CoffeeGeek member can edit their own posts. Only moderators can delete posts. Probationary Period: If you are a new signup for CoffeeGeek, you cannot promote, endorse, criticise or otherwise post an unsolicited endorsement for any company, product or service in your first five postings.
= No New Posts since last visit 