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Posted Thu Jan 10, 2013, 6:17pm
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Tigermilk said:

FYI, the longer it sits between use (when on), the longer it takes to purge the steam from the group head.

This sounds like the water in your heat-exchanger is actually boiling off, and escaping as steam...  

Do you get a drip out of the bottom of the grouphead or drain when the machine is sitting hot and idle but before you have begun flushing the brewhead?  If so,  the brew valve isn't fully sealing. This is the valve above your brewhead which should only be open with the control handle raised.  You can run the pump with valve closed by pressing the button behind the control handle down. This will raise the pressure in your heat exchanger to the relief setting and make the leak much more obvious, if you expect that it is this brew valve that is leaking.  If your pump stalls (Stops making it's normal noise and drops to a quiet hum), release the button. The pump shouldn't stall, if tit does, your relief valve is set higher than the pump can handle.  Check your relief valve before over stressing the hoses and fittings if it is potentially too high.

Or, maybe, is there steam rising through your cup warmer over the boiler? It is possible one of the connections to your heat exchanger is leaking a bit and the heat exchanger is boiling off steam that way.

Are there any other symptoms? I'm really not sure what else to suggest
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Posted Mon Jan 14, 2013, 8:20pm
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Hey all!   I've decided to step up the the wonderful world of a HX E61 machine.   I pulled the trigger on a Cuadra ii from 1st Line today.   :-D

Can't begin to tell you how excited I am.  :-)   I'm moving up from a Breville Infuser/Smart Grinder combo.   I returned the grinder to BB&B and picked up a new Vario (for 350.00 shipped :-)) so I'm good to go there.   Was just wondering if you guys have any tips for a new machine.  

I've read through the thread here and did a good bit of research on the Web,  but would like to hear from current owners for any words of wisdom.

Thanks in advance!
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Posted Tue Jan 15, 2013, 5:45am
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MDiddy Said:

Hey all!   I've decided to step up the the wonderful world of a HX E61 machine.   I pulled the trigger on a Cuadra ii from 1st Line today.   :-D

Can't begin to tell you how excited I am.  :-)   I'm moving up from a Breville Infuser/Smart Grinder combo.   I returned the grinder to BB&B and picked up a new Vario (for 350.00 shipped :-)) so I'm good to go there.   Was just wondering if you guys have any tips for a new machine.  

I've read through the thread here and did a good bit of research on the Web,  but would like to hear from current owners for any words of wisdom.

Thanks in advance!

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o.t., but $350 is a good price for a new vario.  you got it where?  ;~)  mebbe they have similar deals on a virtuoso or preciso?  i wouldn't mind upgrading the isomac granmacinino in my office .  :>)

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Posted Tue Jan 15, 2013, 2:20pm
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doug_s Said:

o.t., but $350 is a good price for a new vario.  you got it where?  ;~)  mebbe they have similar deals on a virtuoso or preciso?  i wouldn't mind upgrading the isomac granmacinino in my office .  :>)

doug s.

Posted January 15, 2013 link

Ebay believe it or not.

There's a seller there,  zoes-stuff.  He had it listed for 360.00 shipped, but two days later when I decided to purchase, he upped it to 410.00.  

I sent him an offer of 360.00 and he took it still, so it might be worth a shot trying it again.

I just looked, and he's now upped the price to 449.00 shipped, so he's gone up quite a bit.  Doesn't hurt to try and make him an offer though.
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Posted Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:18am
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Interesting.   Just got my machine from 1st line and I'm going through the initial setup.   I found their YouTube video on how to adjust the pressurestat to lower the boiler pressure down a bit,  and noticed the boiler the video is fully insulated.   My Cudra ii is not.   I have the insulation sheet on the back of boiler in front of the reservoir,  but it's not wrapped like in the video.

Is this anything to be concerned about?
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Posted Wed Jan 16, 2013, 1:39pm
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MDiddy Said:

Interesting.   Just got my machine from 1st line and I'm going through the initial setup.   I found their YouTube video on how to adjust the pressurestat to lower the boiler pressure down a bit,  and noticed the boiler the video is fully insulated.   My Cudra ii is not.   I have the insulation sheet on the back of boiler in front of the reservoir,  but it's not wrapped like in the video.

Is this anything to be concerned about?

Posted January 16, 2013 link

i would query 1st line about it.  while it does not mention insulated boiler on their website for the quadra ll, it does say that the v2 wersion is insulated in the write-ups for the standard non-v2 quadra units...

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Posted Wed Jan 16, 2013, 1:47pm
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doug_s Said:

i would query 1st line about it.  while it does not mention insulated boiler on their website for the quadra ll, it does say that the v2 wersion is insulated in the write-ups for the standard non-v2 quadra units...

doug s.

Posted January 16, 2013 link

Actually, looking at the description on the site again, it looks like the just the sheet insulation is correct:

"Insulation between boiler and inner water tank wall."

Odd, though, the a few people in this thread and the machine in the video for the pstat adjustment, have a fully insulated boiler as opposed to simply the sheet.

I wonder, how hard would it be to insulate the boiler myself?
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Posted Wed Jan 16, 2013, 2:01pm
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Posted Wed Jan 16, 2013, 2:07pm
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MDiddy Said:

say that the v2 wersion is insulated in the write-ups for the standard non-v2 quadra units...

doug s.

Actually, looking at the description on the site again, it looks like the just the sheet insulation is correct:

"Insulation between boiler and inner water tank wall."

Odd, though, the a few people in this thread and the machine in the video for the pstat adjustment, have a fully insulated boiler as opposed to simply the sheet.

I wonder, how hard would it be to insulate the boiler myself?

Posted January 16, 2013 link

go to the standard a006 quadra, at $995, and read what it says re: differences between it and the v2:

"Insulation on back wall between water reservoir and boiler (CuadraII has insulation wrapped around the boiler)."

doug s.
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Posted Wed Jan 16, 2013, 2:25pm
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MDiddy Said:

Ebay believe it or not.

There's a seller there,  zoes-stuff.  He had it listed for 360.00 shipped, but two days later when I decided to purchase, he upped it to 410.00.  

I sent him an offer of 360.00 and he took it still, so it might be worth a shot trying it again.

I just looked, and he's now upped the price to 449.00 shipped, so he's gone up quite a bit.  Doesn't hurt to try and make him an offer though.

Posted January 15, 2013 link

I also just had an offer of $359 accepted. Their pricing is all over the place---I've seen $399 and $449 from one day to the next. Can't hurt to make an offer.
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